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Xref: sserve comp.org.eff.talk:9716 misc.int-property:740 comp.unix.bsd:7367 Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,misc.int-property,alt.suit.att-bsdi,comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!nuchat!sugar!ficc!peter From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) Subject: Re: Patents: What they are. What they aren't. Other factors. Message-ID: <id.KYMU.W3C@ferranti.com> Organization: Xenix Support, FICC References: <1992Oct28.153748.3758@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <1992Oct28.220811.27666@netcom.com> <6581.Nov112.31.0292@virtualnews.nyu.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1992 19:19:21 GMT Lines: 24 In article <6581.Nov112.31.0292@virtualnews.nyu.edu> brnstnd@nyu.edu (D. J. Bernstein) writes: > In theory, society gains from a (marketable) patent (which is novel, > unobvious, etc.) by virtue of its publication; the inventor gains from a > (marketable) patent because it is a temporary monopoly. When the idea > isn't marketable, nobody gains and nobody loses. When the idea is > marketable, somebody's going to market it whether or not there's a > patent, and arguments about the benefits to society of marketing are > entirely irrelevant. There is an exception to this: when the cost of development is high, the cost of reverse engineering is much lower, and the patented idea is essential to developing the product. For physical objects, design and tooling is usually high so this is almost always true. For software, there are very few cases where this is true and where society would benefit from patents: software development is generally cheap, and the number of currently patentable ideas in a single software product is astronomical. Without making this distinction, it's hard to see how society could benefit from any patent. -- % Peter da Silva % 77487-5012 % +1 713 274 5180 % Har du kramat din varg idag? /C{setlinecap}def/L{lineto}def/M{moveto}def/H{newpath 0 C 0 19 M 0 25 L 4 21 L 0 16 M 5 16 L 8 13 L 4 13 L 1 16 L 8 13 M 8 8 L stroke 2 C 10 6 M 8 8 L 10 8 L stroke}def/T{translate}def 72 72 T 24 24 scale H 20 0 T -1 1 scale H showpage