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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!zdc!zdc-e!szdc-e!news From: "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: TCP latency Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:36:18 -0500 Organization: John S. Dyson's home machine Lines: 50 Message-ID: <31E6FD92.41C67EA6@dyson.iquest.net> References: <4paedl$4bm@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> <x7687w1dsr.fsf@oberon.di.fc.ul.pt> <4s220u$nmq@symiserver2.symantec.com> <31E53C2B.41C67EA6@inuxs.att.com> <4s6k8o$4o0@fox.ksu.ksu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dyson.iquest.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.networking:45014 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:4009 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:23403 James M. Chacon wrote: > > "John S. Dyson" <dyson@inuxs.att.com> writes: > > >tedm@agora.rdrop.com wrote: > > >> > >> You are probably correct in that Terry was speaking theoretically, rather than > >> practically. In any case, this thread has grown from the "my D$$K is bigger > >> than yours" to something more approximating reality, and has gotten more > >> useful and interesting as a result. > >> > >Y'know, I usually don't care how big my D$$K is until someone starts > >making theirs look bigger than it really is... > > Which: > > 1. You haven't proved he's attempting to do. But of course arguing for no > particular reason hasn't ever stopped you before. > He made a claim that BSD networking is not as fast as Linux, specifically using the no-load latency figure. It was simply silly. I tried to show him how silly it was, and he unfortunately started taking offense. > 2. Why is this on the netbsd groups? If it's a comparison of your D$$K size > to Linus's, take it somewhere people care, like misc.test. I've seen > calm carefully constructed arguments from him, and complete senseless > ravings from you.... > Sorry James, but I wasn't the one that added NetBSD to this argument. Look to someone else :-). Also, please recognise that it is NOT senseless to consider the issue of scalability. To most people the no-load latency benchmark is bordering on meaningless. Note also that NetBSD and FreeBSD perform almost exactly the same in the networking arena. I guess you are not interested? Linus has NOT proven his initial statement that Linux networking is faster than BSD.... Sigh... You can't win sometimes with the truth... Please refer to my posting that I suggest that this is degrading so far, that Linus has tried a run of three connections :-) to show scalability. Time to really benchmark the thing. Again, this applies to NetBSD also, because again, it isn't much different than FreeBSD. Further necessary responses will be redirected to the comp.os.linux.misc group, simply because it seems to be where all of the scalability "experts" are. :-). They can prove that Linux is faster than *BSD all they want there (with 3 connections :-)). John