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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!inXS.uu.net!news.iij.ad.jp!news.CET.CO.JP!usenet From: Michael Hancock <michaelh@cet.co.jp> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: TCP latency Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:44:09 +0900 Organization: CET Lines: 43 Message-ID: <31E9B079.7A47@cet.co.jp> References: <4paedl$4bm@engnews2.eng.sun.com> <4pf7f9$bsf@white.twinsun.com> <4rql4p$39f@innocence.interface-business.de> <4rrimn$dro@fido.asd.sgi.com> <31E16DB5.41C67EA6@dyson.iquest.net> <4rtvpf$7e5@fido.asd.sgi.com> <31E73BCA.41C67EA6@FreeBSD.org> <4s7jsd$blf@fido.asd.sgi.com> <31E7B8A5.41C67EA6@dyson.iquest.net> <4s8rtp$jsh@fido.asd.sgi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chaos.cet.co.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (WinNT; I) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.networking:45215 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:23575 Linux RULES!!! Linux is the HEIR TO UNIX!!!! Long Live LINUX!!! Larry, you're a full fledged evangelist of the screaming hordes. The BSD camp as seen the likes of the "Notorious BSD", but this is just plain scary. -mike hancock Larry McVoy wrote: > > John, you're obviously a smart guy. When I approached you about working > on Linux, it was more for your own benefit than for Linux'. It was > obvious to me then (as it is now) that the Linux effort was far more > focussed on cool technology than on people's personalities. My fear > for you, which is obviously realized, was that you would get tangled > up in silly arguments about BSD vs the world instead of having a > pleasant time working with pleasant people working on widely used > technology. > > "A mind is a terrible thing to waste." I felt then, and feel now, that > working on *BSD is basically a waste of time. It was a compliment to > you that I was interested enough to try and get you to see things from > a different point of view. I'm sure you don't take it that way, but > that's your problem, not mine. > > My point of view on this extends to the other smart & productive people > working on the various BSD fractions. I feel that it is self defeating > to have BSDI, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, and 386BSD out there. Isn't > it obvious at this point that Linux is doing a much better job of keeping > the crowd of people focussed on the technology instead of the personalities? > Is it really worthwhile to have these arguments? Wouldn't it be better > if we were all working on the same thing, making one OS the best? Instead > of arguing that your variant is better than their variant? When are you > going to realize that my bias towards Linux is because of the fact that > Linux is constantly drawing more people towards itself, while *BSD is > constantly driving people away? > > The cool part about Linux is that there are no arguments like this. This > sort of time waster is a BSD idiosyncrasy, one that is a major bummer. > -- > --- > Larry McVoy lm@sgi.com http://reality.sgi.com/lm (415) 933-1804