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From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." <hasty@star-gate.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: TCP latency
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:45:00 -0700
Organization: TLGnet Inc., (formerly The Little Garden)
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Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> In article <31E80ACA.167EB0E7@dyson.iquest.net>,
> John S. Dyson <toor@dyson.iquest.net> wrote:
> >Larry McVoy wrote:
> >
> >> It's kind of fun to contrast this with the Linux crowd:
> >>
> >> BSD guys:  "your benchmark sucks!  your numbers are wrong!  you mislead the
> >>             world!  you suck!  whine!"
> >>
> >> Linux guys: "Hey Larry, the null syscall benchmark is busted because we can
> >>              do a null syscall in about 1 usec.  You need to change it so
> >>              it times in nanoseconds".
> >
> >I think that was a kind-of cute situation.  We decided NOT
> >to special case the syscall that Larry uses for the
> >null-syscall case.
> 
> John, John, John, calm down.
> 
> You are suggesting above that YOU did not special case the system call
> that Larry uses in lmbench, and by implication you are claiming Linux
> does. Very subtly done, but
> 
>         YOU'RE LYING

May I ask in which point do you think that Dyson is lying? 8)

>beat you on system call latency (and I have to admit that I haven't even
>looked at the FreeBSD numbers, so I'm just assuming that from your post

If anyone needs to calm down around here is you, *linus*. Please 
don't assume either ask for the numbers or get them yourselves.

P.S.: I can understand that your group has done a lot of work
over the years and recently your OS may be suitable for server
class category -- all I can say is congrats your OS is now
almost as good as FreeBSD -- I am saying almost as good because
until is not proven out in the field with your new networking
code is just a little experiment in your box which we still
don't know its configuration nor its OS version -- very very
subtle, linus 8)




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