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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.ysu.edu!news.cps.udayton.edu!news.engr.udayton.edu!blackbird.afit.af.mil!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!dragnhll.demon.co.uk From: Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk> Newsgroups: demon.ip.support,demon.tech.unix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Batch FTP and Web Pages Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 22:15:17 GMT Organization: Dragonhill Systems Ltd Lines: 47 Message-ID: <837555317snz@dsl.co.uk> References: <4schgu$7t@anorak.coverform.lan> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: dragnhll.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 X-Mail2News-Path: dragnhll.demon.co.uk In article <4schgu$7t@anorak.coverform.lan> brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk "Brian Somers" writes: > Brian Blackmore (bnb@looking-glass.org) wrote: > : Your knowledge of this subject shows up as being totally crap, by the > : statement you said above and also by the fact that your news setup > : breaks RFC1036 (message ID's must have a valid internet domain name > : after the @ anorak.coverform.lan is *not* a valid internet domain > : name, if everyone choose stupid domain names and didn't register them > : there would be clashes all over the place and a Message-Id would not > : be unique.) > : </Reality> > > Yeah, so you go patch tin so that it allows you to configure > your article names. It doesn't require any "patching" of tin; merely that you configure your system correctly. looking at other headers in your postings, we find: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.coverform.lan X-NNTP-Posting-Host: awfulhak.demon.co.uk Now the second line is added by Demon's news posting software. It identifies unequivocally the machine through which the article was received by Demon. This, amongst other things, prevents Demonites from forging articles. The first line was inserted by tin; it reflects the configuration options that you (or your sysadmin) provided to tin (it's so many years since I last looked at tin that I cannot remember what this is called). So *someone* has selected localhost.coverform.lan as the name of the node from which the posting occurred --- we wouldn't have a situation here where a corporate LAN was being interfaced to the Internet as a Demon node, would we? If so, you *are* paying Demon the extra GBP200pa for the networking option, aren't you? If you're a basic TAM customer, all users must read and post e-mail and news on just the one machine, and not any machine on a corporate LAN. It boils down to the fact that tin has been misconfigured, and is issuing onto the 'net host names which cannot, and must not, exist (except on a *completely* local basis). I'm beginning to have suspicions about why you chose awfulhak as your Demon node name! -- Brian {Hamilton Kelly} bhk@dsl.co.uk Tony Blair's New Labour: The Windows'95 of Political Parties (c/w Plug'n'Pray and a pretence of offering object-orientation)