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From: u27113@s853702 (Danny Backx)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Getting off the stick [was Re: TCP latency]
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Date: 18 Jul 1996 13:15:43 GMT
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From: u27113@s853702 (Danny Backx)
Reply-To: u27113@kb.be
Organization: Kredietbank, Havenlaan 2, 1210 Brussel, Belgium
Subject: Re: Getting off the stick [was Re: TCP latency]

Jordan wrote :
> I do realize that this is a highly idealized vision, I'm simply trying
> to underscore the point that the real fight isn't in the OS arena at
> all, it's what sits on top.  So far, sadly, not many people have chosen
> to look up there since it's far easier to worry about minescule
> differences in your fork() timing than it is to design and implement
> clustering protocols or write free CORBA implementations.
> 
> If the various OS camps don't wake up to this soon, THAT is what is
> going to kill them, not the Linus vs *BSD fights or the fighting between
> the *BSD camps themselves - that's merely arguing about a stubbed toe
> while an 18 wheeler is bearing down on you from behind.  Focus on the
> *serious* deficiencies, please!
> - Jordan Hubbard
>   President, FreeBSD Project

So does this mean more people will start contributing to
projects like LessTif now ?

http://www.hungry.com/products/lesstif

--
Danny Backx, Kredietbank, Havenlaan 2, 1210 Brussel, Belgium
u27113@kb.be	Tel. +32(2)422.74.57	Fax. +32(2)422.81.77
Jordan wrote :
> I do realize that this is a highly idealized vision, I'm simply trying
> to underscore the point that the real fight isn't in the OS arena at
> all, it's what sits on top.  So far, sadly, not many people have chosen
> to look up there since it's far easier to worry about minescule
> differences in your fork() timing than it is to design and implement
> clustering protocols or write free CORBA implementations.
> 
> If the various OS camps don't wake up to this soon, THAT is what is
> going to kill them, not the Linus vs *BSD fights or the fighting between
> the *BSD camps themselves - that's merely arguing about a stubbed toe
> while an 18 wheeler is bearing down on you from behind.  Focus on the
> *serious* deficiencies, please!
> - Jordan Hubbard
>   President, FreeBSD Project

So does this mean more people will start contributing to
projects like LessTif now ?

http://www.hungry.com/products/lesstif

--
Danny Backx, Kredietbank, Havenlaan 2, 1210 Brussel, Belgium
u27113@kb.be	Tel. +32(2)422.74.57	Fax. +32(2)422.81.77