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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!netnews.nwnet.net!symiserver2.symantec.com!usenet From: tedm@agora.rdrop.com Newsgroups: demon.ip.support,demon.tech.unix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Batch FTP and Web Pages Date: 20 Jul 1996 07:57:34 GMT Organization: Symantec Corporation Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4sq3he$86a@symiserver2.symantec.com> References: <4schgu$7t@anorak.coverform.lan> <837555317snz@dsl.co.uk> <4shbes$4r7@news-gb7osp.ampr.org> <837651236snz@dsl.co.uk> Reply-To: tedm%toybox@agora.rdrop.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.6.34.1 X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 In <837651236snz@dsl.co.uk>, Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk> writes: [more news stuff deleted] > >RFC1036 mandates quite clearly that the Message-ID shall be unique; the >only way of ensuring this is to use a domain name within it that one can >guarantee no one else to be using: to do this requires that the domain be Once again not correct. The Internic has already begun retracting commercial domain names that are not paid for. (or at least whatever company they have doing their dirty work for them is) It is therefore conceiveable that the same domain name could be used in different organizations, separated by a time delta. For example, a popular domain name like "greatdeal.com" (which is a poor choice in my opinion) might be used by Fred's used cars one year, and Sam's used tricycles the next. News servers running in each organization could then have the potential of creating duplicate message article ID's. While this would probably not affect Usenet that much because everyone expires news quite rapidly, sites that archive news postings could in theory end up with totally legitimate duplicate message ID's The moral here is that even a domain name (now that they are apparently available to the highest bidder, thank you webmercialization) used in the message ID does not guarentees uniqueness. It only lowers the probability of duplication.