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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!ott.istar!istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!news.unb.ca!agate.nbnet.nb.ca!news From: cavenerl@nbnet.nb.ca (Lance Cavener) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Why to not buy Matrox Millennium Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 13:38:19 GMT Organization: Novacon Canada Lines: 41 Message-ID: <4u7hv4$jcd@agate.nbnet.nb.ca> References: <4j21ph$crr@slappy.cs.utexas.edu> <4j36ev$prl@news.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> <32023A5E.7623@alaska.net> <stephenkDvp30A.366@netcom.com> Reply-To: cavenerl@nbnet.nb.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.164.199.187 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.apps:19885 comp.os.linux.development.system:29245 comp.os.linux.x:37399 comp.os.linux.hardware:46678 comp.os.linux.setup:67425 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:977 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:4493 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:4262 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:25016 On stardate Tue, 6 Aug 1996 02:31:22 GMT, stephenk@netcom.com (Stephen Knilans) sent holographic email and wrote: >In article <32023A5E.7623@alaska.net> hmmm <hmmm@alaska.net> writes: >>> >information, I suggest no one interested in running a free Unix system >>> >buy their products. >>> >>> I perfectly understand Matrox's decision not to give away details on >>> their cards and programming interface. They are afraid of reverse >>> engineering - as are many of the pc card vendors - did you ever care to >I have reverse engineered software AND hardware! BELIEVE me, you DON'T >need software to reverse engineer hardware! Look at wozniak! HE decided >to get an IBM controller so he COULD cheat, but he DIDN'T! He had problems >with HIS, and found that his did MORE than the IBM one! SO, using info from >both, he designed what came to be known as "the woz machine"! He just looked >at the board! Well good for you. You know how to remove chips. I buy products for the QUALITY not to see if I can reverse engeneer it or screw it all up. And Matrox makes the best/fastest cards, and they last long: thats all that counts. Who gives a shit if you don't have full schematics of their cards? Its THEIR choice weither or not to give out details - its the same issue as source code, if you buy Mortal Combat 10, should you be entitled to the source too? No. There you go. I don't know about you people, but up here in Canada, not giving out schematics is perfectly legal. -- ,.............................................., | Lance Cavener | | cavenerl@nbnet.nb.ca | | cavenerl@novacon.com | `----------------------------------------------' | "The Apple Macintosh is for people who get | | confused with more than 1 mouse button" | | Former lead programmer of OS/2 | `----------------------------------------------'