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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.cis.okstate.edu!newsfeed.ksu.ksu.edu!news.mid.net!newsfeeder.gi.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!news.bb.net!news.blarg.net!blarg.net!vanevery From: vanevery@blarg.net (Brandon J. Van Every) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Why not buy Matrox Millennium Followup-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Date: 12 Aug 1996 06:38:07 GMT Organization: Blarg! Online Services 206/441-9109 Lines: 48 Message-ID: <4umjgf$d4o@guysmiley.blarg.net> References: <4j21ph$crr@slappy.cs.utexas.edu> <stephenkDvp30A.366@netcom.com> <4u7hv4$jcd@agate.nbnet.nb.ca> <slrn50epup.vrk.knaff@choiseul.inrialpes.fr> <4u9oeg$91j@rigel.tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> <32093E50.39EB@aloha.net> <slrn50ipqh.a9.cbbrowne@dantzig.brownes.org> <32097C81.167EB0E7@star-gate.com> <3209F875.3652CCE1@pobox.com> <320B5C98.38201961@xinside.com> <320B894A.5BFAB1C1@pobox.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: animal.blarg.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.apps:20241 comp.os.linux.development.system:29619 comp.os.linux.x:37794 comp.os.linux.hardware:47303 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:1030 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:4583 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:4362 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:25348 Subhas Roy (subhas@pobox.com) wrote: : Patrick Giagnocavo wrote: : > On what information do you base these ill-informed claims? : I was just SPECULATING! I was just describing a possible scenario : to explain something that the readers of these newsgroups are baffled : about. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought my speculation is : a little more plausible than some others. : I have no idea why Matrox would try to force such a self-defeating NDA : upon Xfree86. Diamond understood their previous mistake of forcing NDA : and now they cooperate with Xfree876. Matrox itself created the ground : for such speculations because (to my knowledge) they don't explain their : position. They lost and are losing potential customers like me who want : to use Xfree86. Now some of the posts suggest that Matrox too is going : to release the needed info. If they announce that in this newsgroup : that would be good. Here's your explanation: Matrox is top dog, Diamond wasn't. When XFree86 folks complain about the specs, Matrox doesn't feel any financial pain. Diamond felt it and thus they responded. And actually, it took Diamond quite awhile to respond. Maybe "Matrox resistance" needs a lot more time to simmer. Then again, maybe Matrox will remain top dog, and thereby be capable of blowing off whomever they please. Let's put it another way. The freeware universe, and particularly Linuxers, are always making the mistake of thinking that their market is a gift from God or something. It isn't. It's tiny. It's paltry. It's growing, but one should keep in mind a certain sense of scale before declaring that someone like Matrox's strategy is "self-defeating." To be honest, I'm reasonably concerned that the freeware community is incapable of providing good 3d support for all these boards. I'm expressing my "concern" by ducking the whole issue and concentrating on i486 software-only renderers with limited functionality. It's a job that I can personally get done, it's enough for the distributed VR stuff I want to do, and it buys me a lot of time for all this 3d accelerator, MMX, AGI, OpenGL, Direct3D crap to blow over. Cheers, -- Brandon J. Van Every | Check out Free3d, my 100% efficient, 100% portable | 3d lib, at <http://www.blarg.net/~vanevery>. 3d Computer Graphics | C++ UNIX X11 WinNT | E-mail: vanevery@blarg.net