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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!howland.erols.net!EU.net!usenet2.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!kythera.demon.co.uk From: Ray Auchterlounie <rda@kythera.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,misc.consumers Subject: Re: Why not buy Matrox Millennium Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 21:14:47 +0100 Lines: 41 Distribution: world Message-ID: <199608132014.VAA05987@kythera.demon.co.uk> References: <4j21ph$crr@slappy.cs.utexas.edu> <stephenkDvp30A.366@netcom.com> <4u7hv4$jcd@agate.nbnet.nb.ca> <slrn50epup.vrk.knaff@choiseul.inrialpes.fr> <4u9oeg$91j@rigel.tm.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> <32093E50.39EB@aloha.net> <slrn50ipqh.a9.cbbrowne@dantzig.brownes.org> <32097C81.167EB0E7@star-gate.com> <3209F875.3652CCE1@pobox.com> <slrn50jupd.nc2.knaff@choiseul.inrialpes.fr> <4ucvq1$k55@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <320B2105.41C67EA6@baynetworks.com> <87viesy5z0.fsf@xeno.xinside.com> <0ns8fAAvbkDyEwNQ@dode.dem on.co.uk> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: kythera.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Brian's News Reader V0.9 [Linux] X-Mail2News-Path: mail-1.mail.demon.net!post.demon.co.uk!kythera.demon.co.uk Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.apps:20341 comp.os.linux.development.system:29723 comp.os.linux.x:37930 comp.os.linux.hardware:47470 comp.os.linux.setup:68566 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:1044 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:4614 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:4398 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:25451 misc.consumers:94415 Jerzy A Mlotkiewicz <jurek@dode.demon.co.uk> wrote: [...] >If someone has to buy an X server rather than get it for free or some >time spend downloading it, it would be better to buy it from Sun >Microsystems... Solaris for example, will be fixed immediately should >there be a bug found by a user.. fixes have been known to be out VERY >quickly.. [...] You missed out the <sarcasm> / smiley. That would be the same Solaris that since 2.4 (months ? a year ago ?) sends every bloody packet at least 2 or 3 times on slow links (ie. dial-up) ? you should know, we use the same Solaris news server... Or how about (from discussions on latest Linux Security update): Quoted from - Message-ID: <4uo1kq$h9e@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> [...] - the information on this vulnerability was circulating over mailing lists and usenet for more than 6 month. We thought that it was *fixed* when in *May* [...] LSF update was written in this style to make it clear to CERT that we are not going to keep-it-low because they have not had enough time to tell Sun again about the bug. [...] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now, what was that about "fixed immediately should there be a bug found by a user" - or do bug reports from CERT not count ? ray -- Ray Auchterlounie Research Student (still) at: <rda@kythera.demon.co.uk> Signal Processing Group <rda@eng.cam.ac.uk> Cambridge University Engineering Dept. "No"