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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!wizard.pn.com!news-in.tiac.net!irc.tiac.net!macav.tiac.net!user From: raffael@tiac.net (Raffael Cavallaro) Newsgroups: comp.databases.ms-access,comp.lang.basic.visual.misc,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.mac.system,co mp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,control,misc.consumers.frugal-living,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.motherboards,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.portables,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.software,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.systems Subject: Re: Proper Spam Protocol (was Re: $$$ Make 20,000 ...) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 15:34:25 +0000 Organization: The Very Large Fred Corporation Lines: 38 Message-ID: <raffael-1508961534250001@macav.tiac.net> References: <4tpido$fif@news.nstn.ca> <4tqujk$1a0_002@bryonip.iglobal.net> <32077452.1F37@nando.net> <ballabio-0708960123520001@nntp.tsl.uu.se> <320A8646.1228@ix.netcom.com> <320FB124.5FDE@internorth.com> <raffael-1408962226040001@macav.tiac.net> <32133789.3994@engin.umich.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: macav.tiac.net Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.databases.ms-access:93465 comp.lang.basic.visual.misc:90342 comp.lang.c++:179573 comp.lang.java:73983 comp.lang.perl.misc:36690 comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc:171381 comp.software-eng:41827 comp.sys.amiga.games:99753 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action:160451 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure:115625 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim:124208 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg:99134 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic:170198 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage:69614 comp.sys.laptops:75028 comp.sys.mac.a pps:157153 comp.sys.mac.comm:162492 comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:43410 comp.sys.mac.misc:133557 comp.sys.mac.portables:61843 comp.sys.mac.system:169570 comp.unix.aix:82851 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:25529 control:1340052 misc.consumers.frugal-living:19452 misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.misc:31097 misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.motherboards:28379 misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.portables:21106 misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.software:28164 misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.systems:18959 In article <32133789.3994@engin.umich.edu>, "Tim D. Strong" <strongtd@engin.umich.edu> wrote: > Raffael Cavallaro wrote: > > > And the most naive idea in the world is that the internet is *not* under > > the control of the US intelligence community. > > > > Raf > > Ahhh.....what militia group are you a member of? It might interest you to know that internic, the internet's governing body, which owns and registers for use *all* domain names, is now owned by a private corporation whose board of directors reads like a who's who of former CIA and DOD officials . As for my supposed "militia" connections, I'm actually quite far to the other side (i.e., left) of the political spectrum. I'm just not naive enough to believe that the US defense and intelligence communities would spend hundreds of millions of dollars creating an information network (i.e., the internet) and, once it became popular, make no attempt to maintain control of it. Some of you seem to have forgotten: 1. how the internet came to be (i.e., for defense and intelligence research purposes, and as an emergency communications network in the event of a nuclear exchange). 2. who has legal control of it (i.e., a private corporation with very strong defense/intelligence ties). It's nice to believe that we live in an age of free information, but reality is a bit less idyllic than that. Raf