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#! rnews 94273 bsd Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!Germany.EU.net!Dortmund.Germany.EU.net!main.Germany.EU.net!EU.net!usenet2.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!uknet!arachnet.algroup.co.uk!re.hotwired.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-ana-7.sprintlink.net!neonramp.com!cynjut.neonramp.com!cynjut.neonramp.com!not-for-mail From: burgess@cynjut.neonramp.com (Dave Burgess) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce,comp.answers,news.answers Subject: [comp.unix.bsd] NetBSD, FreeBSD, and 386BSD (0.1) FAQ (Part 1 of 10) Supersedes: <386bsd-faq-1-838497777@cynjut.neonramp.com> Followup-To: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc Date: 28 Aug 1996 09:13:24 -0500 Organization: Dave's House in Omaha Lines: 2151 Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu,cgd@sun-lamp.cs.berkeley.edu Expires: 09/15/96 09:13:23 CDT Message-ID: <386bsd-faq-1-841241603@cynjut.neonramp.com> Reply-To: burgess@cynjut.neonramp.com (386bsd FAQ Maintainer) NNTP-Posting-Host: cynjut.neonramp.com Keywords: FAQ 386bsd NetBSD FreeBSD !Linux X-Posting-Frequency: Posted on/about the 13th and the 27th of every month. Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.announce:241 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce:319 comp.answers:18842 news.answers:73311 Posted-By: auto-faq 3.1.1.2 Archive-name: 386bsd-faq/part1 Frequently Asked Questions 386BSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, and other BSD derived Operating Systems. EXTREMELY UNOFFICIAL Original FAQ by: Terry Lambert New FAQ by: Dave Burgess burgess@cynjut.neonramp.com Last Update: 28 Aug 1996 Section 0. (Basic FAQ information) 0.0 Master Index. 0.0 Master Index. 0.1 A brief history of the *BSD family. 0.1.1 Which of the 4.3 BSD files were identified as encumbered? What's all this about `binary-only files'? Will BSDI continue to ship source code? What did NetBSD and FreeBSD do about the encumbered files? 0.1.2 How close is NetBSD (or FreeBSD) to BSD 4.4? 0.1.3 Where can I get more information about the *BSD family of Operating Systems? 0.2 About this FAQ. 0.2a What are the differences between *BSD and (your favorite operating system name here)? 0.2b Which is better, (your favorite operating system name here) or *BSD? 0.2c Is 386bsd better than (your favorite operating system name here)? 0.2.1 So what ARE the differences between the *BSD family and Linux? 0.2.2 I want to start up a thread about why *BSD is or isn't as good as some other operating system. Can anyone suggest a good reason why I shouldn't? 0.2.3 Are all of the Berkeley derived systems binary compatible? If not, what are the differences? 0.3 Are there any resources on the Net (like URLs) associated with the BSD family of operating systems? 0.4 How to add your pet answer to the FAQ. 0.5 Administrivia. 0.6 Does anyone reading this have any sense of humor at all? 1.0 I just downloaded all of 386bsd version 0.1 and I can't get [some feature] to work? Do you have any suggestions? 1.1 Feature summary 1.2 *BSD software projects in progress 1.2.1 Contacting software authors 1.3 Minimum hardware configuration recommended 1.4 Where to get the source and binaries 1.4.1 Where can I get the distribution on floppy or tape? 1.4.2 Where can I get the distribution via FTP? 1.4.3 Where can I get the distribution on CD ROM? 1.5 Electronic Information Groups for *BSD 1.5.1 Usenet newsgroups 1.5.2 Newsgroup archives. 1.5.3 *BSD system mailing lists. 1.5.4 System Updates. 1.6 Documentation available 1.6.1 BSD manuals 1.6.2 BSD books 1.6.3 The Jolitz Book 1.6.4 Dr. Dobbs' journal 1.6.5 Documentation that comes with most of the distributions. 1.6.6 The O'Reilly and Associates BSD 4.4 Set. 1.6.7 Other FAQ's on the net that are relevant 1.7 FTP sites for *BSD 1.7.1 Official distribution sites 1.7.3 Reference sites 1.7.4 Unofficial archive sites that have neat stuff! 1.7.5 Where can I get a non-X cdplayer program for NetBSD? 1.7.6 X Ported Software List 1.8.7 Motif for the *BSD family. (Infomercial to follow) 2.0 Install process 2.0.1 Boot disks (versions and media formats) 2.0.1.2a The floppy booted, but now the hard disk won't boot? 2.0.1.2b I am trying to reinstall. I run install and it loops asking me if I want to use the whole disk? 2.0.1.4 What are the options on the boot prompt? 2.0.1.5 I just used the '-s' option on the boot, but I can't write anything onto the disk. What is wrong? If I use a plain 'mount' command it tells me that my root file system is read-only. 2.0.2 Fix-it boot disk 2.1 Binary distribution 2.1.1 I want to install by NFS but I am having all kinds of problems. 2.2 Configuration 2.5.1 Partitions 2.5.1.1 What is a 'disklabel' and why do I need one? 2.2.1.2 What other kinds of information do I need if I really want to tune my hard drive's performance in conjunction with a newfs? 2.2.2 Common Disk Label Problems. 2.2.2.1 Increasing the *BSD partition size. 2.2.2.2 I can access the DOS partition on my second disk from Unix but not DOS? Any suggestions? 2.2.2.3 I want to use my entire 2 Gig drive as the root partition. Why doesn't it work? 2.5.3 How do I set up the system so that I can boot from more than one operating system/file-loader without using floppies? 2.2.3 How do I get the system to boot from the second hard drive? 2.2.4 How do I disklabel my second hard drive? 2.2.5 NetBSD and FreeBSD cannot handle disk geometry translations, but it turns out that my disk geometry is translated. It has five zones, each with a different sec/track! What kind of things can I do about the disk translation my hard disk controller uses? 2.2.6 I am having trouble installing on the EIDE hard drive. What are some of the things that I need to look into? 2.2.7 My disk label is complaining about '256 heads' in the disklabel. This is obviously bogus, but it doesn't seem to be hurting anything. Is it Okay or should I fix it? 2.2.8 What are the options for the bootup prompt? 2.5.9 I am having trouble installing WRT 'syslogd: bind: Can't assign requested address' errors. What are some of the things I should look at? I also am having trouble with the network: 'starting network ... ifconfig: localhost: badvalue'. 2.2.10 I am having trouble getting net aliases to work. What could some of the problems be? 2.2.11 I'm having trouble with the networking code (specifically the PPP stuff to my ISP). How can I debug NetBSD's networking? 2.2.12 I want to hard wire my SCSI devices to a particular device number. Is that possible? 2.3 Common installation problems. 2.3.1 Swap space not identified correctly. 2.3.2 Endless reboot cycles. 2.4 The computer just sits there, or 'that isn't right'. 2.4.1 The boot disk works all right on one computer but not another. 2.4.2 Really strange errors in the various *BSD flavors. 2.4.2.1 I am using the original 386bsd 0.1 with no patches installed and I get flashing multicolored characters and a "ptdi 81061" prompt error? 2.4.2.2 Using the new code in NetBSD, I get a "panic: pdti 206067" in pmap_enter(). What should I do? 2.4.3a I get the error "isr 15 and error: isr 17" on an NE2000 card. 2.4.3b I have some card on IRQ2 and it doesn't work; why? 2.4.3c I am getting lousy performance out of my network card. What are some of the other possibilities? 2.4.4 What is the difference between IRQ2 and IRQ9? Are they really the same, or are they really different? 2.4.5 Some of my SCSI devices (like a tape drive) don't work; why? 2.4.6 I try to run 'ps' or 'w' and get ': cannot get namelist' from the TinyBSD kernel. What did I do wrong? 2.4.7 I get a 'Floating point constant out of range' when I try to compile package 'n'. What is broke? 2.4.8 I want to use the Adaptec 1542C SCSI controller. What are the problems/tricks you need to know to get it working? 2.4.9 My system boots OK off the floppy, but once I try to boot from the hard drive, the message "changing root device to sd0a" appears and the system hangs. What is the most likely thing that I have done wrong? 2.5 Other common problems that are attributed to the installation process but are caused other places. 2.5.1 I want to use more than 16 Megabytes of memory. Will any of the BSD based systems support it? 2.5.2 I tried to use a device in my computer that should be there. When I did, I got a "Device not configured error." What do I do now? 3.0 System Internals 3.1 Kernel 3.1.1 How do I build a kernel? 3.1.1.1 Why does the kernel code for NetBSD still use the old K&R style declarations when the ANSI declarations are SO much better? 3.1.1.2 How do I port NetBSD to another platform? 3.1.2 I want to do one of the following things: * add a device not in the distributed kernel (third com port, additional disk or tape, line printer driver, etc). * use a patch from the net or the patchkit to fix a kernel bug. * add another swap device. * recompile the kernel to remove extraneous devices so that it takes up less space. * configure more pseudo-terminals to allow for more xterms or network logins. 3.1.3 I don't have the source distribution -- how can I rebuild the kernel? 3.1.4 Now that I have a kernel, how do I install it? 3.1.5 After installing the patchkit and recompiling the kernel with the option "WD8013", I am no longer able to reboot the machine. A cold boot (power on) runs fine, but after a reboot no boot drive is found by the BIOS. Besides having a 16-bit WD/SMC Ethernet card installed the machines try to boot using either a Adaptec 1742 or 1542 SCSI board to boot from. 3.1.6 My system is complaining about stray interrupt 7. Is my machine going to explode or anything? 3.1.7 I keep getting "wd0c: extra interrupt". What does it mean? 3.1.8 I keep getting silo overflow messages, but the system doesn't seem to mind. Is there a problem? 3.1.9 I found a bug in the kernel. How do I report it? 3.1.10 Can someone please give a reasonably clear set of instructions as to how to get a "current" version of NetBSD running? 3.2 What exactly is this config file, anyway? What are all of these cryptic notations? 3.2.1 Okay, fine. Why shouldn't I just add every device I can find to the kernel, so I'll never have to recompile this again? 3.2.2 What should I remove from the kernel? 3.2.3 I can't get enough remote login sessions or xterm sessions. I also can only get four sessions working at a time. What can I do? 3.2.4 How do I get ddb, the kernel debugger, compiled into the kernel and running? 3.2.5 I'm getting all kinds of errors when I try to build a new version of GCC. How can I upgrade GCC to the most current version? 3.2.6 Can I patch the current running OS image? 3.2.6 Can I have more than one config file? Should I rename it to something else? Any other hints? 3.2.7 What is the meaning of the trap codes I get in panic messages? Sometimes this message appears in the form "trap type nn". 3.2.8 I have been getting a lot of "virtual memory exhausted" errors when I am compiling a program with a really big static array. I have 128Meg of memory and 8Gig of swap. How can this be happening? 3.2.9 Where can I learn more about all this? 3.2.10 Has the method for system call changed? 3.2.11 Does anyone have a system building script that takes things like building a new config and multiple config files into account? 3.2.12 How do I upgrade from my release version of NetBSD (and probably FreeBSD) to the '-current' development sources? 3.2.13 Is there a Makefile that does all that happy world-building stuff? 3.3 X11/XFree86/XS3 3.3.1 What options should I define to get the X extensions included? 3.3.2 Where can I get the FAQ for 'X'? 3.3.3 Why does X drop characters when using xdm? When I run xdm from the console, it keeps losing keystrokes and the shift keys don't always work. Why? 3.3.4 What does the error 'netscape: uname() failed; can't tell what system we're running on' from the BSDi version of 'netscape' really mean? 3.3.5 Under NetBSD and FreeBSD, xlock (or any other program that uses passwords) fails to validate user passwords. Anyone know why? 3.4 Compiler and Library routines 3.4.1 Where is libcompat.a? 3.5 I want to run 'XYZA' which is dynamically linked and from 'some other operating system'. What special things do I have to do to get it working? 3.6 You promised to talk about timezones below. Are you going to? 3.6.1 How do you change the timezone on NetBSD (FreeBSD also?)? 3.6.2 The translation between seconds-since-the-epoch and date differs by about 18 seconds between BSD and other Unixes when running ntp; why? 3.7 How can I implement CVS to track MY changes to the kernel source tree, yet still follow the -current development tree? 3.8 Optional Op-codes for NetBSD, FreeBSD, and other systems. 4.0 Introduction 4.1 Common Kernel-related problems 4.1.1 Where are the commands "rpcinfo" and "rpcgen"? 4.1.2 How can I fix NFS to work with my NE2000 board? 4.1.3 How can I get "ps" and "w" to work? 4.1.5 Where are re_comp and re_exec? 4.1.6 What about the termio, termios, and termcap stuff? 4.1.6.1 Sometimes I have trouble with my system resetting the terminal to seven bit mode. Isn't BSD eight bit clean? 4.1.7 The system hangs with the HD light on after intense disk usage. The system hangs when trying to fsck -p both of my IDE hard drives at boot-up. 4.1.8 How do you implement quotas on Net/2 derived BSD systems? 4.1.9 What are the correct permissions for the /tmp, /usr/tmp, and /var/tmp directories? 4.2 Available kernel add-ons 4.2.1 The Patch-Kit 4.2.2 Shared Libraries 4.2.3 Sound Blaster Drivers 4.2.4 Bus Mouse Drivers 4.2.7 Kernel Loadable Modules 4.3 Other program building type problems. 4.3.1 Greetings from Mars. I am building a program that requires access to the crypt library. Either I have it and it isn't getting copied into the executable, or I don't have it; why? 4.3.2 I am having trouble with long file names in my libraries. It seems like there is a 16 character limit in the library somewhere. 4.3.3 I'm getting annoyed with having this "conflicting types for `sys_errlist'" problem show up nearly every time I build a program. What do I need to do? 4.4 System Administration Questions 4.4.1 Where can I get good books about NetBSD or FreeBSD? 4.4.2 I am concerned about system security. What should I do to protect my system from net attacks? 4.4.3 How can I log failed login attempts? 4.4.4 Can I use a Concatenated Filesystem with NetBSD? 4.4.4.1 Why, when I type "ccdconfig ccd0 16 none /dev/wd0a > /dev/wd1a", do I get back "ccdconfig: ioctl (CCDIOCSET): /dev/ccd0d: Device not configured"? 4.4.5 I am really new to Unix System Administration. I need some real basic help. 4.4.5.1 What is the System Administrator's username? 4.4.5.2 I can't log in as 'su'. What does that message mean when I log in as root. 4.4.5.3 Are there any books I can 'bootstrap' myself with? 4.4.5.4 How about some code examples? 4.5 Daemon questions 4.5.1 I'd like to use amd to mount a file system (/dev/sd0f aka /usr/local) on another machine as "/usr/local". What's the magic? 4.5.2 I am having trouble with my nameserver refusing to acception 'nslookup's from my SunOS machine after I installed the resolver fix. The exact error message is "*** Can't find server name for address 194.100.46.2: Query refused". Can you help? 4.5.3 Are there any alternatives to 'NIS' available for NetBSD, etal.? 4.6 Adding new users. 4.6.1 Where can I FTP the 'adduser' program? 4.5.2 Where is the 'adduser' program? 5.0 Introduction 5.1 Available Kernel Replacements 5.1.2 pcvt 5.1.3 syscons 5.1.9 A replacement curses program/library. 5.2 Floppy Disk problems. 5.2.1 How do I get a bootable floppy? 5.2.2 How do I maximize the space on a mountable floppy disk. 5.3 Character Device Driver info 5.3.1 Printers 5.3.2 Terminals/Keyboards 5.3.3 Modems/FAX Modems 5.3.3.1 How do I add a modem to *BSD: 5.3.3.2 Adding a modem to NetBSD. 5.3.3.3 Adding a modem to FreeBSD. 5.3.3.4 Adding a Dial-in/Dial-out FAX to NetBSD or FreeBSD. 5.3.4 What is the trick for getting Kermit to work with rz and sz? 5.4 Tape Drives 5.4.1 Does the tape need to be formatted? 5.4.2 If I execute the command 'st -f /dev/st0 status', I get: Archive/Tandberg? tape drive, residual=0, blocksize=512 Density: high = 16 (0x10), medium = 15 (0xf), low = 5 (0x5) ds=0 er=0 5.4.3 When is erst0 used? 5.4.4 How is density (bpi) computed? I am using 3M DC 6250 cassettes which have a 250MB capacity on the Viper 150. But computing the bits/inch based on 250MB/tape-length (1020 ft.), I get a density of 171335 bpi, which is nowhere near the 10000 bpi associated with QIC-150 in the st(1) man page. Why the discrepancy? 5.4.5 How is an appropriate block size determined (and in what units are they specified in the st(1) command)? 5.4.6 From the 4.3BSD mtio(4) man page, it sounds like data is typically (traditionally?) stored on tape in eof-terminated sequences of 1K records. 5.4.6.1 Is st's notion of "file" the record sequence between two eof marks? 5.4.6.2 What about a "record"? 5.4.6.3 Is a "record" one "block", as determined by st's "blocksize" command? If not, what is the connection between them? 5.4.6.4 Can I change the "record" size? 5.4.6.5 When would I want a block size that is different from the default? 1KB is the size of writes used by dd or whatever. QIC specifies 512 byte records (well at least its what people use..) Whatever you write in will be broken into 512 byte sections. They must be multiples of 512 though. 5.4.7.1 How do I write several archives to a single tape? I tried without success: $ st -f /dev/rst4 rewind $ tar cf /dev/nst4 archive1 $ st -f /dev/nrst4 weof $ tar cf /dev/nst4 archive2 $ st -f /dev/nrst4 weof 5.4.7.2 Later, I would expect to be able to access, say, archive3 via the fsf directive to skip over the first two archives. What is the correct sequence? 5.4.8 Since the Viper 150 writes on QIC-150/120, I guess I don't need to worry about writing variable-length records? How about reading a tape written with variable-length records. Is this possible with the Viper? If so, what's involved? 5.4.9 The very scant documentation that came with my drive mentions a "selectable buffer disconnect size," whose default is 16K. This is evidently the "maximum number of bytes that can be sent over the SCSI bus during a single data transfer phase." What's that? How is it connected st's "blocksize" command? Do I want to use 16K blocks, or might I even want to set the disconnect size to a higher value? 5.4.10 What is "streaming"? When I tar a directory of files to tape, I notice that the tape often stops. Streaming means it doesn't stop? How would I get the viper 150 to stream using tar or cpio or dump? 5.4.11 Where are all the answers to the above and related questions written down? Neither on the net nor in the 4.3BSD manuals nor Administration text which I have could I find this stuff covered! 5.4.12 What else should I know? For example, it seems that a new tape must stretched. How is this done? 5.4.13 My tape drive doesn't work. 5.4.14 I am trying to restore a tape from a FreeBSD machine on a Sun. What kinds of problems should I expect? 5.4.15 What are the jumper settings for the Archive Viper tape drive? 5.4.16 My Viper-150 autodetects fine; however, the first attempt to read a tape fails after a boot due to an "illegal SCSI command". What could be the problem? 5.4.17 Why haven't we changed the defaults in rdump and rrestore to something that makes sense? I was trying to dump a filesystem to a remote tape and ran into an error complaining about being unable to execute /etc/rmt. 5.5 Network 5.5.1 How can I get my system to work as a network router? 5.5.2 I recently has a problem where I got a message that said "panic: kmem_malloc: mb_map too small". What is the solution to this problem? 5.6 I want to use my ZIP drive. Are there any weird things I need to know? 6.0 Working with DOS and BNR/2 related software. 6.1 Formatting a floppy 6.2 Sharing the Disk with MS-DOS 6.2.1 How can I partition my drive to support both MS-DOS and *bsd? 6.2.2 I can install using the whole disk, but I can't install when I try to share the drive between *BSD and MS-DOS. Why? 6.2.4 Is there any hope of ever running MS-DOS applications under any of the free BSD systems? 6.2.5 How do I get Linux executables to run under NetBSD? 6.3 Accessing the MS-DOS filesystem 6.4 NFS/PC-NFS support 6.4.1 Can I use 8K packets for NFS? When I try, I have all kinds of problems. Specifically, I get 'ring buffer overflows' or the performance is real bad. 6.4.2 How do I get around the NFS "Permission denied" error? 6.4.3 What does the message "BAD MNT RPC: RPC Authentication error; why = Invalid client credential" mean when I try to mount something from another machine? 6.4.4 What does the message "Bad MNT RPC: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak" mean when I try to mount something from another machine? 6.4.5 I get a lot of 'ring buffer overflow' messages using NFS and the ed0 driver. Is there a problem? 6.4.6 I am getting really poor performance out of my network, especially when talking to older networks or when performing short file transfers. What's the problem? 6.4.7 Is there any PC software that will allow me to use my enormous PC with all of the unsupported hardware as a PC-NFS server? 6.5 How can I use mtools with the 'new' floppy naming convention? 7.0 Communications 7.1 SLIP/CSLIP 7.2 PPP 7.3 TCP/IP 7.4 UUCP 7.4.1 TIP/CU 7.4.2 What is the magic incantation that allows the modem to dial? 7.4.3 My modem on DOS COM3 or DOS COM4 works with DOS, but not with *BSD. It is set up using IRQ 4 (or 3) respectively. 7.5 How do I configure my nameserver? 7.6 Terminals 7.7 My network manager (or UUCP feed site admin) just informed me that the way I have installed sendmail through my UUCP connection and has caused a sendmail loop. Can you help me get sendmail installed correctly? 7.8 Can network attached assets be used by/from NetBSD? FreeBSD? OpenBSD? 7.8.1 Is it possible to Network boot a NetBSD machine from a network on a diskless Sparc? 7.8.2 I have been working with FreeBSD 1.5.1 with some machines configured as diskless. How can I do the same for 2.0R (i.e., Which are the magic words to put in the Kernel configuration file?) 8.0 What hardware works! 8.1 Video cards 8.2 Mice and Trackballs 8.3 Serial Cards 8.3.1 How do I configure multiport cards? Is there a possibility of using multiport serial boards? How do you configure an AST/4 in the kernel? It looks like the AST driver only supports 4-port cards, but it looks like it would be easy to add support for 8 ports ... or am I wrong? 8.3.2 Now that I have FreeBSD 1.0 installed, how do I set up the serial ports for bi-directional use? 8.3.3 What is the difference between baud and bits per second? 8.3.4 How do I get a serial console to work? 8.4 Disk Controller Problems 8.4.1 IDE controller problems 8.4.2 SCSI controller problems 8.5 SCSI Controllers 8.6 Network Cards 8.7 Printers 8.7.1 How can I print big files (especially from SAMBA, the WfWg network program)? 8.8 Tape Drives. 8.8.1 What are the jumper configurations for the Exbyte 8200 DAT tape drive? 8.9 QIC-40/80 tape drives 8.10 CD-ROMs 8.10.1 How can I mount my CD-ROM so that it appears to be writable? 9.0 What GNU software has been tested and is working with Net/2 derived BSD systems for the 386? 9.1 Has anyone ever gotten news to work? 9.1.1 I want to make sure I have every set up right for my news partition. What newfs options do I need to use to get this information stored OK without future problems? 9.2 How did you get emacs to compile? 9.2 Has anyone tried to get Postgres to work? 9.3 How about the BSD Song? 0.1 A brief history of the *BSD family. In the beginning, there was Research Unix. Bell Labs, in a moment of utter abandon said "Let us produce progeny of Unix. yea verily, that we might garner a market share with this white elephant." In order to beget as many pretenders to the Unix throne as possible, they removed most of the copyright notices and released huge gobbets of code to Universities throughout the United States. From that humble decision came the very spark of what has arguably become the most successful, completely free Unix-style operating system you can make money on. There were several version of BSD roaming around, but they all had one thing in common. You HAD to have a source code license to the original Unix source to get a working version going. The bulk of the code was written at Berkeley, much of it by long-haired computer geeks, complete with bad complexions and pocket protectors. Many Master's Degrees were built on what was to follow. Then, suddenly, someone realized the amount of source code from the original Unix distribution was pretty much down to zilch. They decided that making the distribution available to the whole world (not just the select Unix license holders) seemed like a pretty 'groovy' (to use the vernacular) idea. From that came the Net distribution. William and Lynne Jolitz, with their standard flair and panache, decided to write the pieces that needed to be written. From that decision came 386BSD Version 0.0. Generally considered to be unusable, it was nonetheless a major coup, in that one no longer needed the dreaded 'source license' to produce working operating system images. 386BSD 0.1 eventually came to be. Linux, the other entrant in the Free Unix-style OS family, had been running for about a year by then. Many people, wanting to stick with code that they already knew and which was in use in the commercial sector, decided to start using (and fixing) the 386BSD 0.1 code. As such, many contributions to the system are provided through interaction by people who communicate via many means. Many new and innovative features have been added to 386BSD since it's original release in June of '92. There was an 'unofficial' patchkit which was available from many anonymous FTP sources which made 386BSD more stable and usable. Many problems associated with the use of 386BSD Version 0.1 were solved through the application of patches from the patchkit. Now, more or less overcome by events, the original 386BSD, with its relationship to the AT&T/Berkeley out-of-court settlement, has become a rare piece of code to find. With some of the code considered 'suspect', it was removed from FTP sites world-wide. To replace the original 386BSD, three newer versions of the system are available, under new names. NetBSD is the oldest, FreeBSD followed shortly thereafter. Both systems have evolved into programs that are superior to their progenitor and both have sizable (if a little rabid) followings. The third entry in the group is a fairly recent entrant, called OpenBSD. Most of the statements made in this FAQ will apply to all three of the replacement systems, although I will try to differentiate one from another whenever the difference matters. Any place that says 386bsd either means the original 386bsd 0.1 or any of the members of the PC BSD family. There have been many attempts to polarize the *BSD development groups in the past. One of the reasons that I am still maintaining the FAQ is that it simply is a good source for historical information, as well as a reasonable source for information that is specific to the implementations of NetBSD, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD. It should be remembered that when the *BSD family started out, Bill and Lynne used a source called the "Berkeley Net Release/2" tape as their foundation. While this provided a stable starting point, it also built a possible bomb into the system. Due to a legal battle (which has now been resolved) the following files are identified as 'encumbered' in the BNR/2 source tree. These kernel files are identified as the 'binary only' files in the BSDI distribution, and either have been or must be replaced before we can have a truly free OS family. These files are the primary reason you won't find the original 386BSD Version 0.1 available for FTP anymore. 0.1.1 Which of the 4.3 BSD files were identified as encumbered? What's all this about `binary-only files'? Will BSDI continue to ship source code? What did NetBSD and FreeBSD do about the encumbered files? For Version 1.1 only, BSDI will ship the following kernel files in binary format: kern/init_main.c kern/subr_rmap.c ufs/ufs_bmap.c kern/kern_clock.c kern/sys_generic.c ufs/ufs_disksubr.c kern/kern_exit.c kern/sys_process.c ufs/ufs_inode.c kern/kern_physio.c kern/tty.c ufs/ufs_vnops.c kern/kern_sig.c kern/tty_subr.c kern/kern_synch.c kern/vfs_syscalls.c Our (Berkeley's) 4.4Lite-based release will again include the entire source tree (with the exception of a tiny number of device drivers whose interfaces are kept confidential at the request of their authors. For NetBSD and FreeBSD, these files either have been completely rewritten in a 'clean room' development effort or were replaced with code from other sources (such as CMU or GNU). The encumbered sources for the user land portion of the system have long since been replaced. 0.1.2 How close is NetBSD (or FreeBSD) to BSD 4.4? If you take a look at the README files that accompany each of these packages, you will find that each is based as closely as possible to BSD 4.4-Lite. The core development team for FreeBSD used the 4.4 Lite distribution and re-engineered the missing pieces to come up with the the current version of FreeBSD. The NetBSD developers started with the existing 386BSD files, and compared them to the unencumbered, freely releaeable files from BSD 4.4. For both groups, any files which were not available (through being encumbered) were written from scratch to provide the functionality that was needed. Either way, both systems are close to BSD 4.4. Of course, each has differences that make it different from the other, and different from regular BSD 4.4. 0.1.3 Where can I get more information about the *BSD family of Operating Systems? Here are the current members of the *BSD family. These are presented in alphabetical order, to avoid implying anything. 386BSD - An older version of BSD now targetted exclusively at the research and academic community. CD distributions only, sold by Dr. Dobb's Journal. FreeBSD - A version of BSD for Intel platforms only and targeted at a broad user base. See http://www.freebsd.org for details or ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD for the latest release. NetBSD - A version of BSD for many different platforms, from Intel to the 68K to the DEC ALPHA. See http://www.netbsd.org for more details or ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD for the latest release. OpenBSD - A variant of NetBSD. See http://www.openbsd.org for more details or ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD for the latest release. 0.2 About this FAQ. This FAQ consists of several parts: Section 0. Basic FAQ information Section 1. General Network Information Section 2. Common installation questions Section 3. Kernel Building and Maintenance Section 4. Kernel Additions Section 5. Kernel Replacement Parts Section 6. Interaction with MS-DOS Section 7. System Communication Section 8. NetBSD for the Mac FAQ Section 9. NetBSD for the Amiga FAQ ... Section n. NetBSD for the Timex Sinclair FAQ It has been suggested that I remove some of the older, less relevant information from this FAQ. I have given it some thought, and I might. Of course, if someone were to do it for me, it sure wouldn't break my heart. 0.2a What are the differences between *BSD and (your favorite operating system name here)? 0.2b Which is better, (your favorite operating system name here) or *BSD? 0.2c Is 386bsd better than (your favorite operating system name here)? I decided to put this in section 0, primarily because it by far the most asked and least useful question in comp.os.386bsd.*. You will often see this question veiled as a request for a brief description of the differences between 386bsd and (YFOS). This type of request, while seeming to be a reasonable one, is usually looked upon as either an attempt by some folks for the net to do their homework, or as an attempt to start yet another flame-war. What is the answer to this question, then? No. It is not. Nor is it any worse. It is DIFFERENT. There are alternative Operating Systems available, both free and commercial. 386bsd, NetBSD, FreeBSD, and Linux are examples of "free" Unix style Operating Systems. If you ask any of these questions, you are wasting a LOT of bandwidth and making a real name for yourself. Don't bother. It nearly always ends up in name calling and 'mine is bigger (or littler) than yours...' arguments. I have included an excerpt below: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is not! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is so! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is not! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is so! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is not! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is so! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is not! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is so! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is not! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is so! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is not! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is so! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is not! >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is so! >>>>>>>>>>>> Is not! >>>>>>>>>>> Is so! >>>>>>>>>> Is not! >>>>>>>>> Is so! >>>>>>>> Is not! >>>>>>> Is so! [the rest of this scintillating debate is deleted...] Where BSD and POSIX differ, 386BSD conforms by default to BSD; Linux to POSIX. Furthermore, while both run mostly GNU utilities, Linux tends toward the SysV flavor (e.g. init vs. initab) where 386BSD sticks with the BSD style. However, sources for different flavors of utilities are available for both, and both support compiler options which allow more BSD or more POSIX semantics. Clifford Stoll talks about the 'West Coast/East Coast' feeling of BSD/SysV in his book "The Cuckoo's Egg". In keeping with that, BSD feels like BSD/West Coast, Linux feels like SysV/East Coast (actually, Finland is what it says on the passport, but stay with me for a minute). If you don't believe me, just look at the primary U.S. archive sites. Linux is available from MIT, BSD is available from Berkeley. Can't get much more 'Coast' than that. :-) Actually, NetBSD and FreeBSD are feeling more and more POSIX all the time. Recent releases of both products have implemented many more POSIX compliant utilities, features, and low-level hooks into the operating system. A great deal of effort has gone into supporting and improving the POSIX standards compliance throughout all of the systems. One of the stated goals for both NetBSD and FreeBSD is Spec 1170 compliance. While no one has jumped up with the check to pay for the testing of compliance, the spec is still there and being persued with vigor. There is a document available via the World Wide Web at http://www.leo.org/pub/comp/os/bsd/cracauer/ that tries to describe the differences in FreeBSD and NetBSD, I haven't personally reviewed it, but it is worth another shot to try and get this pointless debate stopped. Linux, NetBSD, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD share two vitally important facets. All are free and all include source. They are all excellent, and all fill a niche that the others (specifically commercial language and OS vendors) would gladly leave available. Also, don't forget one of the most important things; get what your friends have. Then they can help you. Finally, remember that this FAQ and the BSD Newsgroups are intended as places for *BSD users and developers to meet and discuss topics which are germain to the further development of these systems. For more information about Linux, you can read the comp.os.linux.* newsgroups. 0.2.1 So what ARE the differences between the *BSD family and Linux? Here it is, in its 'right for today' glory. As of 1 July, 1994, these statements were more or less accurate. Against my better judgement, I am going to include this, primarily because it is a very even handed approach to describing two very different systems. As of 1 July 1996 (two years later) the systems have evolved considerably. NetBSD and FreeBSD have been joined by OpenBSD in the *BSD family. In addition, each of the BSD systems and each of the Linux distributions has had considerable chances to evolve. Several updates to the original article are included below, so that the comparison still remains valid. Thanks to <> for his updates on the Linux side of this debate. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - For those of you that find it, I hope that it answers some of your questions. The original was written by: Thomas Heiling Pharmacist & Doctorate at Pharmazeutisches Institut Uni Wuerzburg - Germany Email phar006@rzbox.uni-wuerzburg.de (HP-UX) tom@wpzd07.pzlc.uni-wuerzburg.de (Linux) or phar006@vax.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de ( VAX ) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - What is missing here is an overview and a comparison of the free available Unixsystems. And this info should be in the FAQ! I will start here such a comparison. Q: For whom should this be ? A: For a (hopefully) new Unix-user, who wants to install one of the free Unixes. He should be able to read this document, look at his hardware, define his needs for a Unix-systems and then he should be able to choose a system which meets his needs. Q: Who am I and why should I be able to write such a doc ? A: Good Question! My name is Thomas Heiling, I am working at the University of Wuerzburg in Germany as a doctorate. My job is to program an Ultraviolett/Vis-spectrum comparison program. Furthermore I am the person, who maintains the Internet connections and computers of our Department. I have running Linux and NetBSD 0.9, the main Server is a 486/33 + 16 MB which runs Linux. A 486/66 is for numerical work. Then there are some clients mostly 386 with either 4 MB or 8 MB. One 386 with NetBSD, but this is just for testing. So I would say I can speak for Linux, a little bit for NetBSD and I have no idea for FreeBSD beside the Installation Guide. (I have no access to the BSD386 1.0 CD, which was announced some time ago). Hardware requirements : Linux: CPU: Anything that runs 386 protected mode programs (all models of 386s and 486s should work; 286s don't work, and never will). Architecture: ISA or EISA bus. MCA (mostly true blue PS/2's) does not work. Local busses (VLB and PCI) work. RAM: Theoretically up to 1 GB. This has not been tested. Some people (including Linus) have noted that adding ram has slowed down their machine extremely without adding more cache at the same time, so if you add memory and find your machine slower, try adding more cache. Data storage: Generic AT drives (IDE, 16 bit HD controllers with MFM or RLL) are supported, as are SCSI hard disks and CD-ROMs with a supported SCSI adaptor. Enhanced IDE controllers and devices (including ATAPI CD-ROMs) and generic XT controllers (8 bit controllers with MFM or RLL). Supported SCSI cards include 7000FASST; Adaptec 152X/2825, 1542, 1740, 274X/284X/294X; AdvanSys; Always IN2000; AM53/79C974 PCI; BusLogic; DTC3180/3280; EATA ISA/EISA (DPT PM2011/021/012/022/122/322); EATA-DMA (DPT, NEC, AT&T, SNI, AST, Olivetti, Alphatronix); EATA-PIO (old DPT PM2001, PM2012A); Future Domain 16xx; Generic NCR5380/53c400; NCR53c406a; NCR53c7,8xx; IOMEGA Parallel Port ZIP drive; PAS16; Qlogic FAS; Qlogic ISP (EXPERIMENTAL); Seagate ST-02; Future Domain TMC-8xx; Trantor T128/T128F/T228; UltraStor 14F/34F; UltraStor 24F The various IDE chipsets (CMD640, Intel 430FX [Triton], RZ1000, ALI M1439/M1445, DTC-2278, Holtek HT6560B, QDI QD6580, UMC 8672); removable IDE interfaces (PCMCIA); RAM disk (can be root filesystem); Multiple devices (Linear [append], RAID-0 [striping]). The following file systems are supported in Linux: Quota, Mandatory lock, Minix FS, Standard Linux (EXT, EXT2, XIAFS), DOS (FAT, VFAT, umsdos (Unix like fs on top of FAT)), /proc, Sun NFS, SMB, NCP (for NetWare volumes), ISO9660 cdrom, The following CD-ROM drives are supported: SCSI, IDE/ATAPI, Others (Aztech/Orchid/Okano/Wearnes/TXC/CyDROM; Goldstar R420; Matsushita/Panasonic/Creative, Longshine, TEAC; Mitsumi; Optics Storage DOLPHIN 8000AT; Philips/LMS CM206; Sanyo CDR-H94A; ISP16/MAD16/Mozart soft configurable cdrom interface card; Sony CDU31A/CDU33A; Sony CDU535) SCSI and QIC-02 tapes are also supported. (*Ed Note: Virtually all of the CD-ROMs listed in the 'others' category are either originally manufactured by Matsushita (Panasonic in the US), Sony, or Mitsumi.) Video: VGA, EGA, CGA, or Hercules (and compatibles) work in text mode. For graphics and X, there is support for (at least) normal VGA, some super-VGA cards (most of the cards based on ET3000, ET4000, Paradise, and some Trident chipsets), S3 (except for Diamond Stealth cards, because the manufacturer won't tell how to program it), 8514/A, ATI MACH8, ATI MACH32, and hercules. (Linux uses the Xfree86 X server, so that determines what cards are supported.) The following types of network interfaces are supported in Linux: EQL (serial line load balancing) SDLA (Sangoma S502/S508) PLIP (parallel port IP) PPP, SLIP (CSLIP, keepalive, linefill, six-bit SLIP) Radio network interfaces: BAYCOM ser12 and par96 kiss emulation driver for AX.25 Gracilis PackeTwin support Ottawa PI and PI/2 STRIP (Metricom starmode radio IP) WaveLAN WIC Radio IP bridge (EXPERIMENTAL) Z8530 SCC kiss emulation driver for AX.25 Ethernet (10 or 100 Mbit): 3COM (3c501, 3c503, 3c505, 3c507, 3c509/3c579, 3c590 series [592/595/597] "Vortex") AMD Lance and PCnet (AT1500 and NE2100); AMD PCInet32 (VLB and PCI) Western Digital/SMC (WD80*3, SMC Ultra, SMC 9194) Cabletron E21xx, DEPCA, DE200, DE201, DE202, DE422, EtherWORKS 3 [DE203, DE204, DE205], EtherExpress 16, EtherExpressPro, FMV-181/182/183/184, HP PCLAN+ (27247B, 27252A, 27245, other 27xxx series), HP 10/100VG PCLAN (ISA, EISA, PCI), ICL EtherTeam 16i/32, NE2000/NE1000, NI5210, NI6510, SK_G16) EISA, VLB, PCI and on board controllers (Ansel Communications, Apricot Xen-II onboard, DE425, DE434, DE435, DE450, DE500, DECchip Tulip [dc21x4x] PCI, Digi Intl. RightSwitch SE-X) Pocket and portable adaptors (AT-LAN-TEC/RealTek, D-Link DE600, D-Link DE620) Token Ring driver (IBM Tropic chipset based) ARCnet (arc0e ["Ether-Encap" packet format], arc0s [RFC1051 packet format]) ISDN (ICN 2B and 4B, PCBIT-D, Teles/NICCY1016PC/Creatix) The following TCP/IP options are supported in Linux: Forwarding/gatewaying Multicasting Firewalling Firewall packet logging Accounting Tunneling Aliasing support PC/TCP compatibility Reverse ARP Disable Path MTU Discovery [normally enabled] Drop source routed frames Allow large windows The following entwork protocols are also supported: IPX Appletalk DDP Amateur Radio AX.25 Level 2 AX.25 over Ethernet Amateur Radio NET/ROM Sound cards supported: ProAudioSpectrum 16, SoundBlaster (SB, SBPro, SB16, clones), Generic OPL2/OPL3 FM synthesizer, Gravis Ultrasound, MPU-401 (not for SB16), 6850 UART Midi, PSS (ECHO-ADI2111), 16 bit sampling option of GUS, GUS MAX, Microsoft Sound System, Ensoniq Soundscape, MediaTriX Audio TriX Pro, MAD16 and/or Mozart based cards, Crystal CS4232 based (Pnp), Turtle Beach Wave Front (Maui, Tropez) synthesizers Other cards supported by Linux: Digiboard PC/Xx, Cyclades async mux, Stallion multiport serial (EasyIO or EC8/32, EC864, ONboard, Brumby), SDL RISCom/8 card, Parallel printer, Bus mouse (ATIXL, Logitech, Microsoft), PS/2 mouse, C&T 82C710 mouse port (as on TI Travelmate), QIC-02 tape drives, Travan QIC-80, Advanced Power Management BIOS, Watchdog Timer, WDT Watchdog timer, and Enhanced Real Time Clock FreeBSD: CPU: Any i386sx or better with at least 4 Meg of RAM (8 Meg for X Windows). Disk Controllers: WD1003 (any generic MFM/RLL) WD1007 (any generic IDE/ESDI) IDE, including ATA Adaptec 152x series ISA SCSI controllers Adaptec 154x series ISA SCSI controllers Adaptec 174x series EISA SCSI controller in standard and enhanced mode. Adaptec 274x/284x/2940/3940 (Narrow/Wide/Twin) series EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI controllers Adaptec AIC-6360 based boards, which includes the AHA-152x and SoundBlaster SCSI cards. Note: You cannot boot from the SoundBlaster cards as they have no on-board BIOS, which is necessary for mapping the boot device into the system BIOS I/O vectors. They are perfectly usable for external tapes, CDROMs, etc, however. The same goes for any other AIC-6x60 based card without a boot ROM. Some systems DO have a boot ROM, which is generally indicated by some sort of message when the system is first powered up or reset. Check your system/board documentation for more details. Buslogic 545S & 545c Note: that Buslogic was formerly known as "Bustec". Buslogic 445S/445c VLB SCSI controller Buslogic 742A, 747S, 747c EISA SCSI controller. Buslogic 946c PCI SCSI controller. Buslogic 956c PCI SCSI controller. NCR 53C810 and 53C825 PCI SCSI controller. NCR5380/NCR53400 (``ProAudio Spectrum'') SCSI controller. DTC 3290 EISA SCSI controller in 1542 emulation mode. UltraStor 14F, 24F and 34F SCSI controllers. Seagate ST01/02 SCSI controllers. Future Domain 8xx/950 series SCSI controllers. WD7000 SCSI controllers. With all supported SCSI controllers, full support is provided for SCSI-I & SCSI-II peripherals, including Disks, tape drives (including DAT) and CD ROM drives. Filesystems: FFS (also called UFS by some vendors) QUOTA (allow quota checking on FFS) NFS (Sun Network File System, compatible with PC-NFS) MSDOSFS (MS-DOS Filesystems) CD9660 (ISO-9660 CD-ROM. including RockRidge extensions) PROCFS (/proc file system) MFS (memory file systems, like RAM disk, but backed by swap) SMB (using SAMBA, read-only to LM shares) CD-ROMs: Soundblaster SCSI and ProAudio Spectrum SCSI (cd) Mitsumi (all models) proprietary interface (mcd) Matsushita/Panasonic (Creative) CR-562/CR-563 proprietary interface (matcd) Sony proprietary interface (scd) ATAPI IDE interface (experimental and should be considered ALPHA quality!) (wcd) Ethernet cards: Allied-Telesis AT1700 and RE2000 cards SMC Elite 16 WD8013 ethernet interface, and most other WD8003E, WD8003EBT, WD8003W, WD8013W, WD8003S, WD8003SBT and WD8013EBT based clones. SMC Elite Ultra is also supported. DEC EtherWORKS III NICs (DE203, DE204, and DE205) DEC EtherWORKS II NICs (DE200, DE201, DE202, and DE422) DEC DC21140 based NICs (SMC???? DE???) DEC FDDI (DEFPA/DEFEA) NICs Fujitsu FMV-181 and FMV-182 Intel EtherExpress Isolan AT 4141-0 (16 bit) Isolink 4110 (8 bit) Novell NE1000, NE2000, and NE2100 ethernet interface. 3Com 3C501 cards 3Com 3C503 Etherlink II 3Com 3c505 Etherlink/+ 3Com 3C507 Etherlink 16/TP 3Com 3C509, 3C579, 3C589 (PCMCIA) Etherlink III Toshiba ethernet cards PCMCIA ethernet cards from IBM and National Semiconductor are also supported. Note: FreeBSD does not currently suppport PnP (plug-n-play) features present on some ethernet cards. If your card has PnP, it (PnP) should be disabled. Miscellaneous devices: AST 4 port serial card using shared IRQ. ARNET 8 port serial card using shared IRQ. BOCA IOAT66 6 port serial card using shared IRQ. BOCA 2016 16 port serial card using shared IRQ. Cyclades Cyclom-y Serial Board. STB 4 port card using shared IRQ. SDL Communications Riscom/8 Serial Board. Adlib, SoundBlaster, SoundBlaster Pro, ProAudioSpectrum, Gravis UltraSound and Roland MPU-401 sound cards. QIC-02 and QIC-36 tape drives (wt0) NetBSD: Architecture: ISA or EISA bus. MCA does not work (although there is work under way to provide MCA support). Local busses (VESA and PCI) are also supported. All NetBSD implementation use the following file system types: FFS # UFS QUOTA # UFS quotas LFS # log-structured file system MFS # memory file system NFSCLIENT # Network File System client NFSSERVER # Network File System server CD9660 # ISO 9660 + Rock Ridge file system MSDOSFS # MS-DOS file system FDESC # /dev/fd KERNFS # /kern NULLFS # loopback file system PORTAL # portal filesystem (still experimental) PROCFS # /proc UMAPFS # NULLFS + uid and gid remapping UNION # union file system CONCAT # Concatenated (multiple physical # devices appear as single unit) and # Striped (RAID style Striping) Many of these filesystem types can be mixed and used together (Union Filesystems over CD-ROMs to give appearance of writable CD-ROMs). All NetBSD systems also support the following networking options: GATEWAY # packet routing and forwarding INET # IP + ICMP + TCP + UDP IPFILTER_LKM # Add LKM hooks for packet filtering IPFIREWALL # Add code to system for IP Firewall NS # XNS ISO,TPIP # OSI EON # OSI tunneling over IP CCITT,LLC,HDLC # X.25 atari: A4000/A1200 IDE controller. SCSI host adapters: 33c93 based boards: A2091, A3000 and GVP series II. 53c80 based boards: 12 Gauge, IVS and Wordsync/Bytesync. 53c710 based boards: A4091, Magnum, Warp Engine and Zeus. FAS216 based boards: FastLane Z3, Blizzard. Video controllers: ECS, AGA and A2024 built in on various amigas. Retina Z2 and Retina Z3. Picasso II. GVP Spectrum. Piccalo. A2410. Cybervision 64. Ethernet controllers: A2065 Ethernet Hydra Ethernet ASDG Ethernet A4066 Ethernet Ariadne Ethernet Quicknet Ethernet Arcnet controllers: A2060 Arcnet Tape drives: Most SCSI tape drives, including Archive Viper, Cipher SCSI-2 ST150. CD-ROM drives: Most SCSI CD-ROM drives Serial cards: MultiFaceCard II and III A2232 Amiga floppy drives. Amiga parallel port. Amiga serial port. Amiga mouse. hp300: CPUs: 68020-based: 318, 319, 320, 330, and 350. 68030-based: 340, 345, 360, 370, 375, and 400(*). 68040-based: 380, 425(*), and 433(*). Disks: HP-IB/CS80: 7912, 7914, 7933, 7936, 7937, 7945, 7957, 7958, 7959, 2200, and 2203. SCSI-I(**), including magneto-optical and CD-ROM. Tape drives: Low-density HP-IB/CS80 cartridge: 7914, 7946, and 9144. High-density HP-IB/CS80 cartridge: 9145. HP-IB/CS80 1/2": 7974A, 7978A/B, 7979A, 7980A, and 7980XC. SCSI: HP DAT, Exabyte, and SCSI QIC drives such as the Archive Viper. RS232 interfaces: 98644 built-in single port (dca). 98642 4-port (dcm). 98638 8-port (dcm). Network interfaces: 98643 built-in and add-on LAN cards. Displays: 98544, 98545, and 98547 color and monochrome Topcat. 98548, 98549, and 98550 color and monochrome Catseye. 98700 and 98710 Gatorbox. 98720 and 98721 Renaissance. 98730 and 98731 DaVinci. A1096A monochrome Hyperion. Input devices: 98730 and 98731 DaVinci. A1096A monochrome Hyperion. Input devices: General interface supporting all HIL devices: keyboard, 2 and 3 button mice(***), and ID module. Miscellaneous: Battery-backed real-time clock. 98624 built-in HP-IB interface. 98625A and 98625B `fast' HP-IB interface. 98658A built-in and add-on SCSI interface. Printers and plotters on RS232 and HP-IB. SCSI autochanger. (*) 400-series machines configured for Domain/OS are not fully supported, notably, the keyboard doesn't work and the ROMs must be in `HP-UX mode'. (**) SCSI-II drives are known to work, though this may require changing a jumper on some drives. See your disk's documentation for details. (***) Serial mice connected to a `HIL to quad' converter are also known to work. i386: Floppy controllers. MFM, ESDI, IDE, and RLL hard disk controllers. SCSI host adapters: [Adaptec host adapters only on kcadp floppy] Adaptec AHA-154xA, -B, -C, and -CF Adaptec AHA-174x Adaptec AIC-6260 and AIC-6360 based boards, including the Adaptec AHA-152x and the SoundBlaster SCSI host adapter. (Note that you cannot boot from these boards if they do not have a boot ROM; only the AHA-152x and motherboards using this chip are likely to be bootable, consequently.) Adaptec AHA-294x[W] cards and some onboard PCI designs using the AIC7870 chip. This driver does *not* currently work with non-PCI AIC-7xxx boards or the Adaptec 3940. Buslogic 54x (Adaptec AHA-154x clones; driver on kcadp floppy) [Other host adapters only on kcoth floppy] BusLogic 445, 74x, 9xx (But not the new "FlashPoint" series of BusLogic SCSI adapters) Symbios Logic (NCR) 53C8xx-based PCI SCSI host adapters Ultrastor 14f, 24f, and 34f Seagate/Future Domain ISA SCSI adapter cards, including ST01/02 Future Domain TMC-885 Future Domain TMC-950 MDA, CGA, VGA, SVGA, and HGC Display Adapters. (Note that not all of the display adapters NetBSD/i386 can work with are supported by X. See the XFree86 FAQ for more information.) Serial ports: 8250/16450-based ports 16550-based ports AST-style 4-port serial boards [*] BOCA 8-port serial cards [*] Cyclades Cyclom-{4, 8, 16}Y serial boards [*] IBM PC-RT 4-port serial boards [*] Parallel ports: All standard AT-style parallel ports (with or without IRQ 7 support). Ethernet adapters: AMD LANCE and PCnet-based ISA Ethernet adapters [*], including: Novell NE1500T Novell NE2100 Kingston 21xx AMD PCnet-based PCI Ethernet adapters, including: BOCALANcard/PCI AT&T StarLAN 10, EN100, and StarLAN Fiber 3COM 3c501 3COM 3c503 3COM 3c505 [*] 3COM 3c507 3COM 3c509 and 3c579 (But not the PCI 3c59X series) Digital DC21x4x-based PCI Ethernet adapters, including: SMC EtherPower 10, 10/100 (PCI only!) Znyx ZX34X Cogent EM100 Digital DE450 Digital DE500 BICC Isolan Intel EtherExpress 16 SMC/WD 8003, 8013, and the SMC "Elite16" ISA boards SMC/WD 8216 (the SMC "Elite16 Ultra" ISA boards) Novell NE1000, NE2000 Tape drives: Most SCSI tape drives QIC-02 and QIC-36 format (Archive- and Wangtek- compatible) tape drives [*] [+] CD-ROM drives: Mitsumi CD-ROM drives [*] [+] [Note: The Mitsumi driver device probe is known to cause trouble with several devices!] Most SCSI CD-ROM drives IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM drives (not completely tested, patches available from ftp://lix.polytechnique.fr/pub/manu Mice: ( while the kernel supports mice, there is very little software written which uses the mouse. 'X' is the primary user for these supported mice.) "Logitech"-style bus mice [*] [+] "Microsoft"-style bus mice [*] [+] "PS/2"-style mice [*] [+] Serial mice (no kernel support necessary) Sound Cards: SoundBlaster [*] [+] Gravis Ulrasound and Ultrasound Max [*] [+] [The following drivers are not extensively tested] Personal Sound System [*] [+] Windows Sound System [*] [+] ProAudio Spectrum [*] [+] Drivers for hardware marked with "[*]" are NOT included on the distribution floppies. Except as noted above, all other drivers are present on both kernel-copy disks. Also, at the present time, (as of 1 Nov 1995) the distributed kernels support only one SCSI host adapter per machine. NetBSD normally allows more, though, so if you have more than one, you can use all of them by compiling a custom kernel once NetBSD is installed. Support for devices marked with "[+]" IS included in the "generic" kernels, although it is not in the kernels which are on the distribution floppies. NetBSD/i386 does NOT currently support (in version 1.1), but get many questions about: - Adaptec AIC-7770-based SCSI host adapters (including the Adaptec AHA-274x, AHA-284x families). - NCR 5380-based SCSI host adapters. - APM power management -- if your system supports it, turn it off! - PCMCIA ("PC Card") devices, including some miniature "IDE" hard disks. - QIC-40 and QIC-80 tape drives. (Those are the tape drives that connect to the floppy disk controller.) - WD-7000 SCSI host adapters. - PCI-PCI bridges and cards which include them, such as the AHA-394x SCSI host adapter and some DC21x4x-based multi-Ethernet cards. - 3Com 3c59x series PCI Ethernet and Fast Ethernet adapters. - Multiprocessor Pentium and Pentium Pro systems. (Ed. Note: They run fine, you just don't get the advantages SMP provides yet. There is an SMP working group putting the final touches on SMP support.) - Intel EtherExpress 100 Fast Ethernet adapters. - Digital DEFPA PCI FDDI adapters (the PC support barely missed the November release; it works in other ports, and will work in the next release) We are planning future support for many of these devices. (Ed Note: Version 1.2 is due out shortly, many of these devices are fully supported there.) mac68k: Supported models: Mac II, Mac IIx, Mac IIcx, Mac IIci, Mac SE/30, Mac IIsi, Mac IIvx, Mac IIvi, Performa 600 Supported devices on all of the above systems include: Internal SCSI bus and most SCSI tapes, hard drives, and CD-ROMs Internal sound--enough to beep on some machines, anyway Most basic NuBUS video cards (there have been some problems with some 24-bit color cards) Both internal serial ports ADB keyboards and mice Ethernet cards based on the National Semiconductor 8390 (Asante, Apple, and a few others) [problems reported on the Performa 600, though]. Some systems will boot and are usable from an external terminal (serial tty or SL/IP): LC III Performa 550 and possibly others What isn't supported, but often asked about: 68040-based Macs. Work is in progress on getting a Quadra 700 running. This requires a new scsi driver and a new ethernet driver. PowerPC-based Macs. Work will begin on this, sometime soon. It will be separate from this port, though. The PowerPC is a much different processor. {Ed Note: Work on the Quadra and the Power-PC have begun.] mvme68k: Motorola makes a number of m68k VME cards. This port currently only works on the m68030 based VME147 card (diskless only for now). requirements: - VME147 card - a machine to connect the console to - network connection - NFS server (to serve root and swap) pc532: [This machine should not be confused with the Intel Pentium system with the same name. This is a completely different machine which uses a 32032 CPU and PC peripherals.] 4 - 32 Megs of memory 8 serial lines done by 4 scn2681 chips The NCR DP8490 SCSI chip (scsi only) Most SCSI disks work (fixed and floppy) A few SCSI tapes work Some SCSI CD-ROM drives work The Matthias Pfaller Parallel Port. pmax: [The specifics of the PMAX are a little vague at this point. We'll add these in later.] sparc: CPUs: sun4c (e.g. the SS1, SS1+, SS2, IPC, ELC, IPX, and SLC) sun4 (e.g. the 4/100, 4/200, and 4/300. note that support for the 4/400 processor is incomplete) *NOT* on these machines (yet): sun-4/400 (lacking support for the I/O cache, and has ethernet problems) sun4m (e.g. sparc classic, 4, 5, 10, and 20) sun4d (e.g. sparc center 2000) Work on porting NetBSD/sparc to the sun4m platform is currently in progress, but was not ready in time for the 1.1 release. Video: sun4c sbus video: cgsix, cgthree, and bwtwo frame buffers sun4 video (not thoroughly tested?): P4 on-board bwtwo and VME cgtwo card Serial ports: ttya and ttyb (can be used as console if needed) Ethernet: on-board AMD Lance ethernet ("le0") Sbus AMD Lance ethernet cards On-board Intel 82586 ethernet (ie0 on 4/100's and 4/200's) VME Intel 82586 ethernet cards SCSI: on-board "esp" SCSI controller (sun4c's, and the 4/300) sbus "esp" SCSI controller Sun "SUN-3"/"si" VME SCSI controller (polled mode only, slow) Sun "SCSI Weird"/"sw" on-board controller (4/110 only, polled) VME disks: Xylogics 7053 VME/SMD disk controller ("xd") Xylogics 450/451 VME disk controller ("xy") [note: VME/IPI disks are not supported] Sun floppy disk drive on sun4c's Sun keyboard and mouse Sun4c audio Hardware the we do NOT currently support, but get many questions about: sun4m, including multiprocessor machines interrupt driven SCSI driver for sun-4/100's and sun-4/200's sun3: CPUs: 3/50, 3/60, 3/110, 3/75, 3/150, 3/160, 3/260, 3/280 Serial ports (RS232): built-in ttya, ttyb Video adapters: bwtwo, cgtwo, cgfour Network interfaces: On-board Lance Ethernet (le) On-board or VME Intel Ethernet (ie) SCSI: (Most SCSI disks, tapes, CD-ROMs, etc.) On-board "si" (SCSI-3) [Note 1] VME "si" (SCSI-3) board [Note 1] SMD Disks: (the big, heavy ones 8^) Xylogics 450/451 [Note 2] Xylogics 753/7053 [Note 2] Input devices: Sun keyboard and mouse Miscellaneous: Battery-backed real-time clock. Note 1: The "si" driver now supports DMA and disconnect/reselect but due to the immaturity of the DMA code, those features are disabled by default. To enable DMA (and get faster SCSI performance) patch the variable si_options in the file /usr/src/sys/arch/sun3/dev/ncr_si.c as indicated. Note 2: SMD disk support is almost ready, but could not be tested in time for this release. Drivers are provided for the Xylogics 450/451 and Xylogics 753/7053 VME boards only as source code. They compile but have never touched a disk. Harddisk Storage requirements : *BSD: Base System 16 MB Full binary distribution 46 MB Full source " 72 MB Kernel Source 7 MB Swap 8 MB For all of the *BSD systems, the minimum is Base + Binary + Swap, and that this minimum is 80 MB. For a complete system with binary and source you need at least 210 MB. This does NOT include X or LaTeX. Linux: This is difficult, because there are different distributions to choose from. Every distribution has a special goal. The main distributions are Redhat (commercial release), Slackware, Yggdrasil, and Debian. As a general rule, the Linux distributions take less space than a similar *BSD distribution. Some other features: virtual terminals/consoles: All of the *BSD and Linux systems have virtual consoles available. shared libraries: NetBSD, FreeBSD, and Linux have it. I recall a thread some time ago, which was something like "Linux shared Libs are no good - A pain for the developer." For the user this should be meaningless. NetBSD and FreeBSD shared library implementations are both very easy to use both from the developer and user point of view. UPDATE '96: With the change to ELF and COFF, Linux shared libraries are now as easy to use as the BSD libraries. Networking: *BSD networking is more mature than the Linux networking. Berkeley invented TCP/IP, and since all of the BSD systems are based on the original Berkeley code, this should go without saying. In the development process of Linux 1.3.x/2.0, most of the networking code was rewritten and parts of the BSD networking code were ported to Linux in an attempt to fix any remaining instabilities. The Linux 2.0 networking code seems fairly solid, but 2.0 is too recent to pass final judgement. Eric Schenk at the University of Toronto recently posted on several Usenet newsgroups and a couple of mailing-lists some comments about the innards of the Linux networking code. He seemed to indicate that even the TCP protocol implementation is far from complete. I am looking for the specifics (his note/URL), but I can't find it at the moment. Loadable Kernel Modules: LKMs have been supported in *BSD since the late 386bsd+Patchkit days. Linux has supported LKMs for some time. File System Intrusion: One feature of Linux that is currently not implemented in any of the *BSD systems is the ability to make a filesystem on top of a DOS-FAT, so you don't need to repartition your Disk. This Filesystem is of course not as fast as a native Filesystem, but for trial it should be O.K. Here are some pro's and con's for both : *BSD: + Full Source Code of all commands in a source tree, no need to look all over the Internet for the source of a command. + There is only one distribution, which is valid for some time. + Networking is more mature. + The system is standard BSD. + System will natively execute Linux, FreeBSD, SysV, and iBCS2 executables for all of the platforms supported - Releases of new versions not partiuclarly regular. - You need extra packages for XFree and for TeX. They are not hard to find, and install into a standard location in the directory tree, but they are not included in the base distribution. Most CD distributions include X and TeX implementations on the CD, and they are available from the primary FTP sites for each of the systems. Linux: + Uses fewer resources + Has more support for 'unusual' devices - Every distribution is a little bit different - Development is too fast without net access (typically no specific "version" releases.) I include here some info from other posts, which should help the new user to show the differences: burgess@cynjut.neonramp.com wrote: : NetBSD is the OS I use. It is a BSD derived Operating System : that has a very stable operating envelope. The networking code : has been stolen by commercial OS and network vendors the world : over. NetBSD has the advantage of being meant for a wide : range of hardware platforms. It is currently available for : something like 10 different CPUs, and has been laid out such : that new architectures can be added relatively painlessly. These arechitetures include several Sun Systems, many Motorolas, including the Amiga and Mac, and several other mini- and microcomputer systems. : : FreeBSD is pretty much the same (go ahead a quibble over : details, I don't care anymore). The biggest difference is that : NetBSD is a horizontal system (across platforms) and FreeBSD is : a vertical system (intended to stay on the Intel family). Both : are based on code from 386BSD, although neither really resembles : it any more. : : Linux was developed by Linus Torvalds and has the advantage of : being available in source code form first. Other than that, I : have heard that it is a good OS platform for standalone Unix : workstations. It had a lot of things that made its users rabid : before the *BSD folks did, but the purists insist that *BSD is : (choose two: cleaner, safer, taller, wider, better, quieter, : louder, greener, older, more modern). From: hedrick@geneva.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) There are four major differences: 1) the 386BSD family started with BSD, and Linux started with POSIX. NetBSD/FreeBSD/386BSD have been adding POSIX and System V compatibility, and Linux has been adding Berkeley and System V compatibility. So there's a good deal of overlap. But ...BSD is still a better choice if you want to program in a Berkeley environment and Linux if you want a POSIX environment. (Ed Note: Linux started out with Minix, but only sort of. The first file system it supported was the Minix file system. The rest of the 'standard Linux' filesystems came along later. POSIX wasn't the original design document. Linus wanted to see if he could do it: apparently he could.) That's for the kernel and libc -- the utilities and other stuff users see tends to be fairly similar. In both cases the programs are what I call "typical University Unix". The main difference is that the base Unix utilities tend to be Berkeley for *BSD and GNU for Linux. GNU is fairly Berkeley-compatible, but its priority is POSIX, so it tends to look slightly closer to System V, with massive Berkeley extension. There are several sets of administrative utilities, but it's more likely that init, getty, etc., are going to be System V style for Linux and BSD for *BSD. Again, these things aren't as significant as they might be because *BSD is also concerned about POSIX compatibility and GNU is concerned about BSD compatibility. So both sets of software are approaching a similar sort of goal from opposite directions. You could probably use the systems for quite a while without noticing much difference. (I'd like to emphasize that there's no similarity in overall feel between Linux and typical brain-dead PC System V ports.) The *BSD FAQ characterizes the difference as one of East Coast vs. West Coast. There's a lot to be said for that summary. There's more difference in Unix culture between New Jersey and California than between New Jersey and Finland. 2) The nature of the development communities and distribution mechanisms are different. *BSD has three (four if you count BSDI) different developer communities that take code from each other, but appear to hate each other's guts. Even *BSD and Linux take code from each other. Thus there are several different *BSD's, each of which has an official distribution. There's just one Linux kernel, and from a practical point of view just one set of major utilities, but there's no official distribution. So several different groups put together distributions, with their own choice of kernel and utility versions. This means that it's easier to define what the One True Linux is than what the One True BSD is, but harder to get it. Once you've decided which BSD is the right one, it's easier to find an authoritative distribution of it. Development of Linux tends to be more distributed. Lots of people are working on lots of projects: new drivers for this and that, new versions of this utility and that. If you want to keep up with NetBSD, FreeBSD, or OpenBSD you can automatically download the changes for the -current from one or two places for each release. FreeBSD and NetBSD use 'sup' and OpenBSD uses 'anoncvs', a more powerful versioning and updating system. If you want to keep up with Linux, you end up taking pieces from lots of people (though they generally end up on one of two archive machines -- tsx-11.mit.edu or sunsite.unc.edu). If you don't want to do this, of course the packaged distributions do it for you. 3) The BSD networking is more mature than the Linux networking. This is one area in which I don't think Linux has any countervailing advantages, though in my opinion by release 1.0 Linux networking will be acceptable. (Ed Note: This is, in fact, the case. Linux networking has matured considerably this was originally written). 4) There are specific things in each system that are likely to be deciding factors for some people. I don't know what unique things BSD has, because I'm not part of that community but here is the list of features that I find appealing: - COFF and ELF compatiblity: When this was originally written, neither had ELF or COFF support built in. They both do now. - Windows executable emulation: This is probably more useful, and it's being done jointly by developers from both BSD and Linux cooperatively. (After two years, this is still not completed.) - DOS compatibility: The existing releases of *BSD don't have DOS compatability, but the imminent releases of FreeBSD and NetBSD both do. This emulator is the same one BSDI uses, so is exactly the same as the commercial BSD/OS version. The Linux DOS emulator has a long history, but is generally considered slow enough and creaky enough that it's not generally usable. However it certainly does work for many programs, and if one of those programs is critical to you, it may be a big deal. - Differences in support of devices are not likely to persist for long. There's a history of taking device drivers in both directions, so if there's enough interest in a device, and one side implements it, you can bet it will (generally) show up on the other side. (Ed Note: The floppy tape driver is a good example of one that didn't make it to all of the BSD systems. FreeBSD has it, but NetBSD doesn't.) - Linux uses DOS partitions (including extended partitions). - BSD creates its own partitions inside a single non-DOS partition. This is a difference, but it's unclear whether it's a critical one. - Linux and *BSD can all mount DOS filesystems and Linux can mount OS/2 file systems (OS/2 is read-only). For a lot of people, the best suggestion is to find out what your friends are doing. If there's a significant user community near you of either kind, you're probably best off to go with it. If not, flip a coin (or look at a map and see whether you're nearer Berkeley or Finland -- note that in this comparison portions of the distance that are over an ocean don't count). There is another difference: the use of the network share directories. The Linux file system standard (which is supported by convention by most Linux developers) currently says that no program should look directly into /usr/share, that symlinks should be provided from other places, such as /etc/termcap. This provides the ability to have a heterogeneous /usr/share that anyone can access, but which does not NEED to be available for the system to operate. On the other hand, there is a movement to have the /usr/share directory tree available to all programs that need it in the *BSD camps. It is more a matter of opinion than a matter of substance as to which is better; it is simply another difference, and one that is not likely to change in the near future. Bob Woods writes: "My very slight experince with trying to port some ISA ethernet and ISDN drivers from Linux to NetBSD left me with the impression that none of the code is of very high quality. I didn't get very close to much of the code still maintained only by Linus, but more than one of these drivers was absolutely atrocious. I ended up dropping my plans to port the driver, and would be writing from scratch if the project had not been cancelled." 0.2.2 I want to start up a thread about why *BSD is or isn't as good as some other operating system. Can anyone suggest a good reason why I shouldn't? Jordan Hubbard, one of the FreeBSD core team members, has offered this missive on that very subject: [ Note: You could very well simply substitute the word "NetBSD", "OpenBSD", or "Windows 95" for "Linux" in the argument that follows ] From time to time, a thread in both the comp.os.386bsd.misc and comp.os.linux.misc groups flares up regarding which operating system is "better", FreeBSD or Linux. This generally provokes controversy from users on both sides, with one group claiming that their OS is "better" for some reason and the other group claiming that the first group doesn't know what the heck it's talking about. Both arguments are a waste of time. Rather than trying to win a rather questionable debate on relative (and constantly changing) technical merits, we should be asking ourselves what both groups are REALLY about and what they represent. This is naturally going to be a matter of personal opinion, but I believe even the most seriously at-odds members would agree that both operating systems represent a unique and long-awaited opportunity: The ability to run a fully featured operating system on popular, easily affordable hardware and for which all source code is freely available. Those who have been in computing for awhile will remember when the term `operating system' referred almost exclusively to something provided solely by the hardware vendor, with very little in the way of alternative options. It was never EVER given out with source code, and true "wizard" status could only be achieved by exerting mind-numbing amounts of effort and patience in digging through forbidden bits of binary data. By comparison, the situation today seems almost too good to be true! Certainly, the feeling of achievement that came from finally ferreting out some esoteric bit of information from a 4MB printed system dump was high, but I don't think that anyone would argue that it was hardly the most optimal way of truly getting to know your operating system! :-) So now, within a very short space of time, we're almost spoiled for choice in having machines several times more powerful than the first multi-user VAX machines and available for under $2000, and we've got not one but SEVERAL perfectly reasonable free operating systems to chose from. We are in a comparative paradise, and what are some of us doing? *Complaining* about it! I suppose too much is never enough, eh? :-) So, my essential point is simply this: For the first time ever we have what previous computing generations could only dream about; powerful computers at a reasonable prices and a wonderful selection of things to run on them. Be happy, read the source code you're so privileged to now have available (*believe* me! What I wouldn't have given, even 5 years ago!) and spend your energy in making constructive use of it, not in arguing with the guys on the other side of the fence! Additionally, it should be said that none of the FreeBSD team has anything but the highest degree of respect for Linus Torvalds and his "team" of dedicated volunteers (and we occasionaly exchange gripe mail about the huge volume of messages each of us gets as a direct result of being insane enough to volunteer to do something like this :-). Our common commitment to the Intel platform also gives us more common ground (and interests) than one might think and, if anything, it's a pity that we do not endeavor to share more code and effort - ideologically, at least, I'd say we share pretty similar goals. As to which is "best", I have only one standard reply: Try them both, see for yourself, think for yourself. Both groups have given you something for free, at considerable personal effort, and the least you can do is give them the benefit of exerting enough effort to try what they're offering out before passing judgment (or worse, blindly accepting someone else's!). Whichever you run, you're getting a great deal - enjoy! Jordan Hubbard 0.2.3 Are all of the Berkeley derived systems binary compatible? If not, what are the differences? (Ed Note. This section is probably wrong, even if it was right when I looked at it last. There is a LOT of work going on, including SysV ELF support and other cool stuff.) NetBSD/386 runs old 386BSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD/386 0.8, and most BSDI executables. However, due to upgrading to the latest version of the UCB DB library, programs which use said library cannot be mixed old and new; e.g. an old `ls' cannot read the pwd.db file created with a new `pwd_mkdb', and vice versa. FreeBSD runs 386BSD, NetBSD/386 0.8, and most BSDi executables. You can replace the remainder of the paragraph above here too. NetBSD 1.1 and FreeBSD 2.1.5 are now able to run any of the following: - Linux executables (static or dynamic) - BSDI executables - 386 Common Object File Format (COFF) executables - Each other's executables In addition, there are several other CPUs that NetBSD works with, and these have compatability code for the native operating system for those CPUs built in. Macintosh and Amiga can even run each others executables under NetBSD (although not necessarily Mac or Amiga native apps). In addition, the -current x86 *BSD family core teams has been working on improving and porting the BSDI DOS emulator. This means that soon, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD will all be capable of running native DOS apps, 0.3 Are there any resources on the Net (like URLs) associated with the BSD family of operating systems? Yup: http://www.public.iastate.edu:~gendalia/FAQ/FAQ.list.html http://www.freebsd.org/ http://www.openbsd.org/ http://rfhs1012.fh.uni-regensburg.de/~feyrer/ http://www.cd.chalmers.se/~nh/netbsd.html http://www.flame.org/netbsd/projects ftp://ftp.uni-regensburg.de/pub/NetBSD-Amiga/.index.html ftp://ftp.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD/packages/WWW.tgz ftp://ftp.netbsd.org:pub/NetBSD/mailing-lists ftp://flick.lerc.nasa.gov:~ftp/pub/NetBSD/packages/i386 ftp://ftp.iastate.edu:/pub/Netbsd/FAQ http://sirius.ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp/~kamahara/NetBSD-X68060 IF you are going to be using IRC in the near future and want to talk to some of the movers and shakers in NetBSD, the next time you log in look for one of the following people: Handle Channel 'hubertf' #netbsd 0.4 How to add your pet answer to the FAQ. This is the trickiest part of this section of the FAQ. There are only two criteria for getting an entry made into the FAQ: 1. Your answer should answer a question that seems to come up with some regularity, or at least perplexes a group of people from time to time. 2. Your answer should be technically correct. In other words, answers like 'RTFM' and 'everybody knows that' are not really good candidates for the FAQ. These answers should spell out, in a reasonable level of detail, precisely how to fix the the question asked, or explain the basis for the answer and leave the implementation of the answer to the questioner. All answers MUST include a question. This is not as obvious as it would seem at first glance. An answer could solve many problems, especially in the realms of system halts or other catastrophes. Since I (Dave) am no Unix guru, I rely HEAVILY on the input of other people to make the FAQ a success. Many questions in the FAQ have been made largely irrelevant through the patchkits, but that doesn't means they may not reappear. That is why the old FAQ questions are still here. New FAQ questions should be added. I will try to attribute the question/answer to the author, but I personally think this is a waste of good disk space. As long as the answers get out, that should be reward enough :-) 0.5 Administrivia. Send all question/answer pairs to burgess@cynjut.neonramp.com, If you are going to post the Q/A to the net, then do that, but be sure to mark it as a FAQ entry. I will get it from the net as easily as I do my E-Mail. Your Q/A will be formatted to look more or less like the others and be added. Corrections, deletions, flames, snivels, and whines should be addressed directly to me here. Either way, I will be sure to send out a reply letting you know what I have done with your submission. One last thing. I will assume that I am infalible. :-) I will not notice any mistakes that you may find. If you find a mistake and don't tell me, it will very likely stay a mistake. After all, if I didn't notice it before, why should I notice it now? 0.6 Does anyone reading this have any sense of humor at all? I'm not sure. While reasearching the great 'Linux vs. everyone else sucks' debate, I received this in E-Mail. The author's identity has been removed to protect him from the mail-bombs. For the humor impaired, stop reading now! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Many people ask the question "Which is better? FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, or Linux?" Up until now, not many people are willing to answer thoroughly and give reasons. I, being a brave soul, am. This mini-FAQ lists the most significant differences between Linux, NetBSD, and FreeBSD in a fair and evenhanded manner. Permission is given to redistribute this mini-FAQ freely, with attribution. If anyone wants to take the burden of posting it periodically on the appropriate newsgroups, be my guest. This is based on a message I wrote some months ago. I've tried to update it substantially to reflect the changing nature of x86 OS's. ------------- Q) Which is better? NetBSD, OpenBSD, Linux, or FreeBSD? A) NetBSD is the best of the three because of it's superb error handling capabilities (this is the "Net" referred to in the name). With NetBSD, it's almost impossible to make a mistake, either in installation, or operation, because the system will "catch" you as you "fall". NetBSD works on a wide range of processors, including the Intel 386, 486, and 586, the Sun, Sparc, SGI, MIPS, Macintosh, Motorola 6809, Krupf, ADC Kentrox, Whirlpool, Amana, Zilog Z80, Timex-Sinclair, and the Braun. Currently, the NetBSD team is devoting all of their energies towards finishing the all-important IBM RT port. Linux is the successor to an operating system called "Minix". Linux was developed by Linus Pauling, a Finnish communist. Linux tries to uphold traditional Marxist values in several ways; firstly by using GNU tools from the FSF foundation wherever possible. The Linux kernel is developed by committee, and the operating system reflects this: rather than having one "init" process which fathers all others, a group of co-resident processes with equal powers are created simultaneously. "Kill" commands are treated as formal protests. Linux networking has come a long way since it's implementation, and there is no truth whatsoever to the rumor that sudden losses of IP connectivity are in any way related to future plans to limit users to 1.5 hours of SLIP or PPP unless they send in the registration fee. FreeBSD was a radical offshoot of the Linux project; you could consider it to be of the Trotskyite school. FreeBSD supports an extremely wide range of PC hardware, as long as it was obtained at less than cost. FreeBSD is used by Amnesty International and many other human rights organizations. FreeBSD supports every peripheral available for the IBM PC except the ones you have. The FreeBSD team was actually responsible for porting "Doom" to Linux, in a successful effort to slow down constructive work by distracting the central committee with frivolous games. FreeBSD has the nicest installation of any of the x86 unices -- you install the boot disks, which then initialize the modem and call Jordan "Perky" Hubbard, who then comes to your house with the rest of the disks and completes the installation. The FreeBSD CD-ROM plays various Nick Cave and Tom Waits songs Jordan is known to be fond of. 386bsd was written by Bill Jolitz in a fit of pique. It was based entirely on Sun's widely-respected "Solaris" operating system, as revenge against Sun's Bill Joy, who rudely chose a name with the same initials as Jolitz. A new version of 386bsd will be released very soon. Unfortunately, it will only run on 386es, and thus is unsuitable for anyone with a 486 or Pentium. 486bsd should be released "sometime in 2138," according to industry insider James Monroe, Sr. DID YOU KNOW? ============= 1) The Free and Net BSD teams split up in the year 1632. The cause of the split is uncertain, but it seems to have something to do with someone named "Janice." They still get together for drinks occasionally, and remember old times. Every so often, after tying on a few too many, they end up waking up next to each other and feel ashamed over their night of pleasure. The kids still blame themselves. 2) The Linux kernel has actually not changed at all since January, '94? Linus just increments "version.c" once every 48 hours and unleashes the "change" on an unsuspecting Internet, bringing FTP servers to their knees. A book, "The Design and Implementation of the Linux Operating System," my Gary Marshall James T. Kirk McUsenet, was rejected by Addison-Wesley on the grounds that they didn't feel the public was prepared to purchase a book written on looseleaf paper with diagrams in crayon. 3) All three systems claim to be "POSIX" compliant. However, the POSIX people have denied knowing anything about it. Scuttlebutt in the industry is that POSIX will soon be outdated, and will be replaced by GNOPIX, a FSF standard which implements the TOPS-20 operating system in Scheme. -- Dave Burgess (The man of a thousand E-Mail addresses) *bsd FAQ Maintainer / SysAdmin for the NetBSD system in my spare bedroom "Just because something is stupid doesn't mean there isn't someone that doesn't want to do it...."