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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
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Subject: Re: Solaris 1.1 vs. Solaris 2.0 (BSD vs AT&T)
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Date: 16 Nov 92 19:19:37 GMT
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>USL is
>even less clueful.  System V UNIX is dead.  The market opened their eyes
>and told them "you can't possibly be serious!" and they adopted BSD as 
>the only way to keep selling licenses.  POSIX won the interface battle,
>not SVID.  BSD won the users over.  If you think a new user would take
>System V.[01234] seriously as a competitor to Windows/NT or BSD, you are
>totally out of your freaking mind.

Umm, from your claim that "they" - presumably meaning "USL" - "adopted
BSD", you are asserting that "System V.4" actually *is* BSD, so the
statement that

	If you think a new user would take System V.[01234] seriously as
	a competitor to Windows/NT or BSD, you are totally out of your
	freaking mind.

should be changed to refer to "System V.[0123]".

(And from your list of "You mean I'll have to" list, you're clearly
enumerating AT&T/USL bogosities that they've abandoned, with the
possible exception of the shell script, not enumerating stuff that's the
case with *current* SV - SVR4 supports file systems with long file
names, provides a sockets interface to TCP/IP, supports X11, and
provides the C shell for those people perverse enough to like it :-) -
so, again, you are aware that SVR4 isn't like earlier SV's.)

(Oh, and if SV sucks so badly, how come you wrote a "cron" that behaves
like SV's "cron"? :-))