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From: heller@socko.cdnow.com (A. Karl Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD ...
Date: 2 Oct 1996 17:13:18 GMT
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Stephane Russell (sstef@sprynet.com) wrote:
: Bryan J. Smith, E.I. wrote:
: >
: > Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD ...
: >
: When I read this and all the other news articles alike, I
: understand more why Windows is selling better than Unices. It's
: amazing to see how every Unix groups are fighting against each
: others all the time.
: I'm a DOS/Windows programmer that have turned to Unix. I don't
: understand how such a small market can allow itself to fight like
: that instead of teaming up. The only true winner in all of this
: will be Microsoft.
: Every time another Unix user wan't to make me feel I've chosen the
: wrong operating system, it makes me feel bad. In Windows, at
: least, you always have the feeling you're working in the same side
: than the others Windows users. Fustrated together, but working
: together!
Ahhahhah... Thats funny. Try talking to some MAC users sometime..
in windows you have that feeling of being on the same side because nobody
understands that their ARE sides...everyone thinks PC=WINDOZ...what is a Mac?
I do agree Unix people should work together... but.. thats like asking
MicroSoft to make W95/NT/W3.1/WWG/W2.0/DOS to work together perfectly.
How about OS/2 while we are at it?
: Windows is not that a bad operating system, and I know for sure
: that if the Unix world don't stop their internal unuseful fights,
: they won't have a bright futur when Windows NT will be a more
: competing and lower cost product.
NT is really ( when you REALLY know what you're doing ) not a viable
solution to server use... especially WWW usage. A Sun Sparc box will
out-perform a NT box anyday for server demands with thousands of users.
: Don't forget that Microsoft target is to see one day Windows NT on
: every desktop computers of the world. And Microsoft certainly have
: the resources to do so.
Yes they do. But the fact that everybody must conform to the MS way
for everything from sending email to printing, to wordprocessing to having
to run NT servers will piss a lot of people off.
: To really take the pulse of the market, I recommend the reading of
: the may Byte issue (http://www.byte.com). The article «Unix vs
: [...]
: « Microsoft has strong tools strategy with Visual Basic, VB
: for Applications, VB Script, Visual C++, and OLE. However,
: as users become more Internet-savvy and
: multiplatform-minded, that strategy must become less
: proprietary and Window-based. Sun has blazed a path with
: Java that Microsoft needs to follow.»
MicroSoft must ditch the proprietary mindset. Good luck winning Mac users
over though. The "superior" Mac environment is hard to do away with.
: Every new Unix user is, before all, a new Unix user. It always
: have been more easy to port a program from SCO to FreeBSD than
: from Windows to FreeBSD. It always have been more easy to switch
: from one Unix to another than from Windows to Unix. That's why I
: don't care if there is more Linux users than FreeBSD users. Each
: of them are on the same side, but have different needs.
Agreed.
: Above all, I am sure that Free Unices are originating from a group
: of people (makers and users) who have fun with what their doing.
: That's probably why free Unices are the right product for all of
: us. The day the fun will be over, free Unices will be history. So,
: let's not make it a more serious thing than it should be with
: those argues.
A similar argument can be seen in the VideoGame console market.. and even
the WordProcessing Market.
However, the Unix world always seems to strive to do things "RIGHT",
... unlike the MS/DOS/Windows world.
Karl