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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!metro!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!newspump.sol.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.xensei.com!news.erg.sri.com!forte.org!forte.org!not-for-mail From: paigen@forte.heathen.com (David Paigen) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.infosystems.www.misc Subject: Re: Unix too slow for a Web server? Date: 2 Oct 1996 09:46:48 -0700 Organization: Forte Recreations Lines: 46 Message-ID: <52u69o$1sl@forte.heathen.com> References: <323ED0BD.222CA97F@pobox.com> <$oVmqBAydTTyEw9t@senator.demon.co.uk> <52pd61$cfb@flash.noc.best.net> <52rkhe$d62@library.clarkson.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.heathen.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:133174 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:28451 comp.infosystems.www.misc:44384 In article <52rkhe$d62@library.clarkson.edu>, Mark Komarinski <komarimf@craft.clarkson.edu> wrote: >Matthew Dillon (dillon@best.com) wrote: >: :In article <$oVmqBAydTTyEw9t@senator.demon.co.uk>, >: :Gavin Estey <gavin@senator.demon.co.uk> wrote: >: :>In article <52am8g$fvs@nntp1.u.washington.edu>, Trent Piepho >: :><xyzzy@u.washington.edu> writes >: :>>But how would you share the data between them? Unless you buy a RAID array >: :>>for each machine, you'll have to use NFS or something. If you factor in >: :>>20 gigs of drive for each ppro, you'll have a hard time buying 10. >: :> >: :>Why would you want 20 gig on just one machine. You could have 10 >: :>machines each with serving 2 gig. >: >: Not cost effective. What you could serve out of 10 2G boxes another >: person would be able to serve out of 2 10G boxes 400% cheaper. Reliability >: is an issue, but not one deserving a 4x increase in cost in a heavily >: competitive market! > >Ha ha ha ha ha ha bwah! bwah! ha ha ha. Oh sorry. This is just *way* too >funny. > >Try running something that hits the hard drive *a lot* and see your >performance go through the floor. (Hint: try running a news server) > >Cost-effectiveness isn't all that helpful when your customers are waiting for >I/O. > >Now, what business *were* you in? > >-Mark Actually, Mark, Matt is the head sysad/techie at a large ISP in the Bay Area. I think Best has something like 10,000 customers now. I can assure you that Matt knows a lot about running a news server. And, like the chess master, that you don't know who he is suggests that he probably knows more about running unix servers than you do. -David -- David Paigen paigen@{best.com,forte.org} Will answer stupid user aka Sir Henry Lee C, unix, X, news, and questions for beer. Queen's Champion distributed systems (good beer)