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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.artisoft.com!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: What is a zombie? Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 16:57:40 -0700 Organization: Me Lines: 57 Message-ID: <3256F5F4.7217ACEC@lambert.org> References: <52a5dt$qef@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3249D8F7.2EA39DDA@lambert.org> <52jtk1$8s@uriah.heep.sax.de> <324F080E.4BFCA0F@lambert.org> <52nr0k$baa@uriah.heep.sax.de> <32501DAC.2BEEACF9@lambert.org> <5361v2$ba@uriah.heep.sax.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.1.76 i486) J Wunsch wrote: ] > Besides, the fix is so trivial it is beneath my level of interest ] > to pound it through the constipated send-pr pipe. ] ] Of course, i have to accept your argument that you are not interested ] in this -- but then, stop bitching about it being trivial and below ] Your Great Level of Inspiration. I said "interest", not "inspiration". And the primary reason it is below my level of interest is that I am a software engineer, not a salesman, and I choose to spend my free time engineering software, not selling my ideas to historically unwilling buyers. If there were some assurances (like no outstanding PR's over a certain age) that the code would even be looked at, I *might* be willing to tackle an implementation of SA_NOCLDWAIT. Of course the problem is trivially solvable by making the distinction between SIG_IGN and SIG_DFL instead, without dragging in all of the overdesigned mass which happens to include SA_NOCLDWAIT. Cost/benefit analysis: Positives o working implementation with SA_NOCLDWAIT Negatives o SA_NOCLDWAIT is an implementation detail, since a woking soloution does not require it o My code reaps its children, so I never have the problem in the first place o I have to fight a battle to get the code integrated because of the integration bottleneck o Use of send-pr relocates, but does not eliminate, the bottleneck Conclusions o It is below my level of interest to pursue a soloution to this problem Nothing personal. Feel free to provide evidence to change my perception of the situation. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.