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#! rnews 3895 bsd Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!newspump.sol.net!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!news.artisoft.com!usenet From: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: single to multiple IP address mapping Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:31:24 -0700 Organization: Me Lines: 77 Message-ID: <3262950C.5851C774@lambert.org> References: <53i58m$gsc@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> <53r2ag$a7@anorak.coverform.lan> <jasonsDz9zIz.FE1@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hecate.artisoft.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; Linux 1.1.76 i486) E. Jason Scheck wrote: ] How could you possibly know the details of the contract that ] he has with his ISP? In particular, I've never heard of a ] "per-user" ISP license. Why should the ISP care how many ] users use a connection; they only care about bandwidth. (Yes, ] I know, I'm assuming that the world is logical; it is a fault ] of mine). They care about address space too, or everyone would have an assigned IP address, not that this has much to do with the current discussion. More realistically, ISP's overcommit their bandwidth on the assumption (generally correct, for a one-person-per-connection scenario) that a give connection will exhibit a certain level of activity characteristic of a single user. This lets them support more than 53 simultaneous modem users with just a T1 line (1.5M/28.8K = 53.3333), which in turn lets them charge less for a 28.8K "sparse" connection than they would have to charge for a "committed rate" connection. Once you get a large number of people simultaneously using all the 28.8K connections, the number of sustainable connections asymptotically approaches 53 for the ISP's T1. That's why there are different prices for different rate classes, so they can make usage assumptions. When you use masquerading, you are invalidating the assumptions that the ISP made to allow him to give you the pricing you were given -- in other words, you drive up his costs. As nice as it would be for ISP's to just "eat the cost" to make you happy that you've found a loophole in the ISP's assumptions, if that happens sufficiently, there will be no incentive for the ISP to continue to give you service. He's in it for profit, and you can be sure that if there is no profit, he won't be in it long. One of the big markets for management software is connection usage tracking software to enable ISP's to find people who violate the assumptions (and generally, the contract; if the ISP is not naieve, he has spelled out "acceptable use"). Once these people are found, they are given the option of switching to another (higher) rate class, or having their service discontinued for breech of contract. It's mildly amusing to note at this point that people using Centrex or other DOVBS ISDN connections in California in PacBell service areas are pretty much forcing the phone companies to take a hard line with everyone (which is why you see non-charged hour reduction clauses in most new ISDN tarrifs). The net result is that no one will get to use the service for what it was designed for because the loophole exploiters will ruin it for everyone else. Feel free to act as your conscience directs, but note that your short term gain will result in long term losses for everyone (at the very least, normal users will have to bear their share of the usage monitoring costs to trap abusers like you, and that will increase what they have to pay the ISP, with no increase in benefit to themselves). Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.