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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.Hawaii.Edu!news.uoregon.edu!Symiserver2.symantec.com!news From: tedm@agora.rdrop.com Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: PPP Setup Date: 17 Oct 1996 05:38:37 GMT Organization: Symantec Corp. Lines: 22 Message-ID: <544got$aao@Symiserver2.symantec.com> References: <01bbb95e$bc4937c0$df6d04c7@zellion.cyberwind.com> <32628E8B.274B86C@lambert.org> Reply-To: tedm@agora.rdrop.com NNTP-Posting-Host: shiva4.central.com X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2.5 In <32628E8B.274B86C@lambert.org>, Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> writes: > > >Unfortunately, the patches are required because Microsoft has >chosen to implement their proprietary compression and configuration >exchange in violation of IETF recommendations and rulings. > Actually, you shouldn't blame Microsoft on this, it is more Shiva's fault. When Microsoft did up the dial-up networking client for WIn95, they basically went to Shiva and said "this is too big for us, your the experts, tell us what to do" Shiva then worked with Microsoft to make it as totally compatible with the entire product line of Shiva LanRovers as possible. In any case, it is a moot point. What would help everyone out the most now is to create yet another RFC in cooperation with Microsoft and Shiva and document their intentions into a standard. Since Microsoft seems to have got the "standards religion" these days, this is something that would be possible, whereas getting them to change their broken implementation is extremely unlikely to say the least.