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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!ultranews.duc.auburn.edu!news.fsu.edu!geomag!cain From: cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Help to get started? Date: 22 Oct 1996 11:52:40 GMT Organization: Florida State University Geology Dept. Lines: 126 Message-ID: <54ici8$d57@news.fsu.edu> References: <Pine.SOL.3.92.961021081320.7991B-100000@geomag.gfdi.fsu.edu> <326C5503.41C67EA6@apl.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: geomag.gfdi.fsu.edu In article <326C5503.41C67EA6@apl.washington.edu> "Steven G. Kargl" <kargl@apl.washington.edu> writes: >Joseph Cain wrote: >> >> I am attempting to start to >> install freebsd 2.1 from a Walnut Creek CD rom > >First, if you have decent net connectivity, I recommend that you >consider >installing 2.1.5 from ftp.freebsd.org or one of its mirrors. FreeBSD >2.1.5 >has many enhancements, bugs fixes, and security patches. My understanding is that if I tried to do a copy to floppies that there would be about 45. 45*1300/28/60 would seem like about 35 minutes on a 28.8 line if going at full speed. My experience is that one does not get such a high rate so perhaps we are speaking of hours here? Would a better option not be to install first from the cd and then upgrade, assuming that the major time would be in the first install? >> put Red Hat on my Pentium with the following partitions: >> >> Drive 2 >> Partition Mb Useage >> 1 Non-DOS 8 1% >> 2 Non-DOS 532 52% >> 3 Pri-DOS 492 48% >> >> as from FDISK for my D drive. I have not been able to get this going >> since he left, so I want to use the space to install freeBSD. > >If you are intent on replacing everything on drive 2 or even part of the >drive, I would use MS-DOS's fdisk utility and delete the above >partition(s). Does fdisk allow deleting the non-dos partitions without damaging the DOS one? I would like to retain the dos partition, but do have it backed up to tape so could reinstall if need be. >Next, if you follow the above advice about 2.1.5, choose the novice >install >option during installation. This will solve your problem with slices, >partitions, and mount points. > >Now, if 2.1 is your only option, then we need to get some terminology >straight. Under FreeBSD a disk slice is equivalent to a MS-DOS >partition. >As the name implies, FreeBSD wants a slice of the disk. Other operating >systems can reside in the other disk slices. Within the disk slice >designated for FreeBSD, you set up partitions. These partitions will be >similar to want you are use to on a Sun system. You'll need a minimum >of 3 partitions on your system, and these partitions are commonly given >the mount points /, /usr, and swap. Some people will choose to have >a 4th (or even more partitions) with a mount point of /var. My system is at home with a 28.8 baud ppp connection normally used from Windows 95. My reason for setting up a unix partition is to have an x-window available to my office Sparc2. For this do I need a /var? I expect my teenage son and his (embryonic) hacker friends to use the system so I would assume it wise to put on a /usr "slice" as well as swap (I have 24 mb of ram, but of 532 would I need 24 or 48 for swap?). >A practical example! On my system I have 2 operating systems (MS-DOS >and >FreeBSD). I have a scsi hard designated by the device name sd0. MS-DOS >resides in the first disk slice sd0s1, and FreeBSD resides in the >second slice sd0s2. (Note: a disk can up to 4 slices.) I have >partitioned >the FreeBSD slices as follows: > ># size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 65536 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - >31) > b: 75776 65536 swap # (Cyl. 32 - >68) > c: 657408 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - >320) > e: 30720 141312 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 69 - >83) > f: 485376 172032 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 84 - >320) what are the units for the above, bytes? What is c above? >with the following mount points > >/dev/sd0a / >/dev/sd0s2b swap >/dev/sd0s2e /var >/dev/sd0s2f /usr > I tried the novice install with my partitions as noted above with the intial (perhaps incorrect) thought that I would be able to utilize the whole non-DOS space without figuring out how to wipe it. I have drive C and D in DOS, and both are 1 GB. It is the D or what I thought was the second drive which was partitioned. However, when I go into the novice install regardless of which drive I choose from the menu, I get the wd0s1 highlighted with the options M = mount, etc. I tried to give it a / as a mount point but it does not like that saying it is DOS. When I give the command U = undo (or whatever the term) I get a screen that shows: wd0----525 cyls/64 heads/63 sectors Offset size end Name Ptype Description 0 63 62 - 6 unused 63 2112705 2112767 wd0s1 2 Fat 2112768 2116799 - 6 unused Going thru the same procedure using drive 0 or drive 1 ends up with the same screen. I have no idea what the above means, does anyone? Also, if the second drive is already partitioned, why does the set up program not already understand that? Or perhaps is it just giving me the unused space on the C drive, which I don't want to mess with? ________________________________________________________________________ Joseph Cain cain@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-8972/0098/4214