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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!network.ucsd.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!uunet!mcsun!ieunet!dec4ie!jkh From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard) Subject: Re: [386BSD],fix for SharedLibraries posted recently In-Reply-To: veit@du9ds3's message of 30 Nov 92 12: 51:07 GMT Message-ID: <JKH.92Nov30230406@whisker.lotus.ie> Sender: usenet@ieunet.ie (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: whisker.lotus.ie Organization: Lotus Development Ireland References: <2029@lysator.liu.se> <veit.723127867@du9ds3> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1992 23:04:06 GMT Lines: 44 Sorry, I couldn't resist. No flames here, may you be happy with your shared libraries, but you support my argumentation quite well. I said there will be different improved versions of this "shared libraries" release RSN. We now already have a fix for the original posting, and you just recognized the getopt problem. I wish you good luck for hunting after other incompatible library functions; there are some more... Now Dr. Veit, that's a BIT unfair. You and I agree for the most part that more centralization of effort needs to take place, but I don't see anything wrong with interim solutions that everyone seems to understand are only interim (and this user's posting implied that he did). I am sure that when the 'official' release comes out, it will also be full of bugs and 'incompatible library functions'! Just because it's official is no guarantee that it will work (the fact that various parts of the official 0.1 stuff DON'T work bears this out!). So the point is that if this serves a useful purpose, to someone, Right Now (as opposed to "sometime soon" with the 0.2 stuff), then it's not an entirely bad thing! It could very well be that people happily run this code (modulo whatever patches for it are released) for the next 9 months or so until the replacement is shaken out enough to provide the same degree of stability. All this probably sounds like I'm coming down hard on Jolitz for sins committed in 0.1 and soon-to-be-committed in 0.2 - I'm not. I'm simply trying to make the point that worshiping at the altar of Our Lady of The Official Release (as Holger sometimes tends to do :-) is not always the answer to all your prayers either. Take what you see here with a grain of salt and use it if you can. I know I've gotten a lot of very useful stuff here that I use quite happily every day (I don't know what I'd do without the pcfs code at this point - thanks again, Paul!). When the winds of change next blow through 386bsd, I'll undoubtedly be tagging right along.. Thanks for the patches, Ronnie. There's still a lot people can learn from this shared library implementation, despite its too-simplistic view of the world in some areas (and perhaps this might even aid in understanding it - who knows?). Jordan -- Jordan Hubbard Lotus Development Ireland jkh@whisker.lotus.ie I DO NOT SPEAK FOR LOTUS - IT HAS PLENTY OF LAWYERS TO DO THAT FOR IT ALREADY