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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.hawaii.edu!ames!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!uunet!noc.near.net!mv!world!geoff From: geoff@world.std.com (Geoff Collyer) Subject: Re: [386BSD] Problems installing cnews/nn Message-ID: <ByK57p.3M6@world.std.com> Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die References: <1992Nov27.153032.10611@uropax.contrib.de> <1fav2bINN2ie@tricky.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> <ByI76y.75o@world.std.com> <VIXIE.92Nov30104256@cognition.pa.dec.com> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1992 01:52:36 GMT Lines: 28 In answer to some of Paul Vixie's comments: > Handle 35 simultaneous inbound/outbound NNTP feeds and 135 UUCP neighbors > without melting my computer. UUNET has handled 70 to 80 simultaneous NNTP feeds and 900 UUCP neighbours under C News without melting any machines. > C News has very little built into it to handle "out of VM" or "out of > file table slots" or "out of process table slots" -- if these things > happen, and on DECWRL and other big machines they *DO* happen, C News > either silently dies or decides to lock up and do nothing until the > situation improves. Those things don't happen to C News machine at UUNET and don't in general happen to well-run machines. But we've been over this before. > [INN]'s faster and simpler to build, it contains fewer executable and > library files, and it only runs a few processes at a time. C News seems > designed on the principle that processes are cheap, and maybe on V8 they > are -- but in BSD-land it's a bad thing to have 200 processes in the run > queue. It's even worse in SunOS-land, but that's going to have to be fixed eventually. Warping and twisting every application is not the right answer. -- Geoff Collyer world!geoff, world.std.com!geoff