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From: brian@anorak.coverform.lan (Brian Somers)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: PPP Masquerading in FreeBSD Distributions?
Date: 5 Dec 1996 01:03:13 -0000
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<32A16888.2781E494@FreeBSD.org> <583do6$4t2@Symiserver2.symantec.com>
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In article <583do6$4t2@symiserver2.symantec.com>,
tedm@agora.rdrop.com writes:
: In <32A16888.2781E494@FreeBSD.org>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.org> writes:
:>Charles Mott wrote:
:>> I have neither the experience nor inclination needed for submitting code
:>> to the FreeBSD Central Committee (or should I say Politburo?). For those
:
:>So please don't hurl around epithets like "politburo" just because we're
:>unwilling to further engage in bad software engineering practices which
:>we've learned to avoid the hard way. If you're willing to support this
:
: I just want to interject something here that you both seem to forget -
: the whole point of FreeBSD is that the source is available and compilable.
:
: If C Mott wants to create a NAT solution then what is wrong with putting it
: in the ports section as a TAR file? Is it really necessary for everything on the
: damn CD to be installable with pkg_add? Are we coding for men or babies?
[.....lots of stuff deleted.....]
We're coding for both. There was a time when I'd ignore the packages and
ports because I wanted to do it myself. I now have two machines at home
and one in work running FreeBSD. My main machine at home has 24 packages
installed on it, the others have about 12 each. When I upgrade, I'd rather
type make/pkg_add 48 times than spend the time it takes to do essentially
what I already know I can do. And I'm small-fry compared to what some
other people are doing with FreeBSD.
I for one am interested in incorporating cmotts stuff into the mainstream
iijppp, and I'm happy that it's worth doing because of the responses that
I've seen in this group. It involves no kernel patches, and can be made
switch-on-and-offable. Given this, I can't see any reason that the
FreeBSD core-team will have problems. I want to do this because I've
been mucking around with slip/ppp on FreeBSD for years, and am sick of
rewriting my "connect" script/program for every new release. I may still
have to do this if I take on the responsibility for the iijppp program,
at least I should be the *only* one doing it. iijppp has only two
"missing" features in my opinion, it would be nice to plug them now for
good.
--
Brian <brian%anorak.coverform.lan@awfulhak.demon.co.uk>
<http://www.awfulhak.demon.co.uk/>
Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour....
.