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Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.internals Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!208.192.224.3!news.interactive.net!bet From: bet@interactive.net (Bennett Todd) Subject: Re: Solaris 2.6 X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.1.1 BETA UNIX) X-Nntp-Posting-User: bet Sender: news@news.interactive.net (USENET News) Organization: IBS Interactive Message-ID: <slrn5a983t.hgl.bet@onyx.interactive.net> References: <32986299.AC7@mail.esrin.esa.it> <casper.32a1813c@mail.fwi.uva.nl> <57v6em$p73@helena.MT.net> <casper.32a3e5ae@mail.fwi.uva.nl> <580sgh$kpi@panix2.panix.com> X-Trace: 849649789/27168 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: onyx.interactive.net Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 21:49:50 GMT Lines: 31 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.solaris:91540 comp.unix.bsd.misc:1688 comp.unix.internals:11470 On 3 Dec 1996 04:39:29 -0500, Thor Lancelot Simon <tls@panix.com> wrote: >In article <casper.32a3e5ae@mail.fwi.uva.nl>, Casper H.S. Dik <casper@fwi.uva.nl> wrote: >>I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Sun/Large file API Summit's >>approach is better in the light of binary compatibilty and a large installed >>base. >> >>Only BSD bigots believe differently. > >Anyone who claims to have "proven beyond the shadow of a doubt" anything about >software is a nut, a moron, a bigot, or some combination of the three. Well, sure. This comes as a surprise? Casper Dik as established his credentials on the net; he was actively claiming that people should switch to Solaris 2 long before 2.5 was available. At some point you just have to give up; recognize that there are some people who just can't be trusted to have a clue --- or to be able to realize (and admit) that they've made a mistake. >I give up. Like I said, you folks suffer from inpenetrable NIH. Now there's no grounds for saying "you folks" here; Casper Dik is his own special force on the net. Sun hired him, and I can see why; he's more technical than most of the marketing bozos who were willing to publicly claim that Solaris 2 was a Good Thing:-). But that doesn't mean he represents the pinnacle of Sun Microsystems' engineering understanding. Just look at the deliberately broken things in Solaris 2.[0-4] that were fixed in 2.5, despite the fact that Solaris 2 spokespersons had been claiming that it was better to have these things broken and they'd _never_ get fixed. Some people in Sun are actually able to admit they are wrong in the most public way. Just not the marketing division --- or Casper. -Bennett