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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!shalunov From: shalunov@math.wisc.edu (stanislav shalunov) Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.smail,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: sendmail vs. qmail Date: 13 Dec 1996 19:15:24 GMT Organization: not really Lines: 36 Distribution: world Message-ID: <SHALUNOV.96Dec13131524@math.wisc.edu> References: <57tf61$gq7@raven.eva.net> <589s2i$aro@raven.eva.net> <58ffd7$op8@pacer.nlc.net.au> <58h6r1$8ik@ezekiel.eunet.ie> <1996Dec1005.15.53.2968@koobera.math.uic.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: conley.math.wisc.edu In-reply-to: djb@koobera.math.uic.edu's message of 10 Dec 1996 05:15:53 GMT Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.mail.sendmail:35142 comp.mail.smail:2703 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:32527 >>>>> `djb' == D J Bernstein <djb@koobera.math.uic.edu> has written: >> Two extra complete SMTP negotiations and transmissions faster than a >> single RCPT? djb> Profile. Don't speculate. Your experience with serial mailers does djb> not apply to programs handling several jobs at once. I am sorry, but may I humbly ask for confirmation? Let us say that we have, e.g., 5K message (with headers), and, e.g., addresses of normal length, about 30 or 50 bytes. Do you claim that opening 10 connections in parallel and transmitting the same data (except RCPT line which doesn't affect data length much), about 5K, is faster than transmitting the same 5K one time? Do you claim that the worse is connection the more is gain? And, furthermore, do you claim that you have proven it with actual measurements? That will be a good thing to know if you confirm this because you were posting other measurements that you have performed and I was tending to trust them. P. S.: would you accept the following model of SMTP transmission: we each time consume same bandwidth (no matter if we fail or succeed) and we have constant probability p for given pair of hosts and given length of message that connection will be successful and mail will be actually delivered? If you do not accept it, please tell us what you would accept. -- Stanislav Shalunov, http://math.wisc.edu/~shalunov/ | shalunov@math.wisc.edu PGP key fingerprint = 62367EA3D4D01D88E021F40A0D938E12 | public key on www page Opinions that might have been represented here are just mine, not anyone else's To err is computer's, to forgive--human.