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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!enews.sgi.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!165.254.2.53!nonexistent.com!not-for-mail From: le@put.com (Louis Epstein) Subject: Re: Apache and FreeBSD versions X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] X-Nntp-Posting-User: le Lines: 71 Organization: Putnam Internet Services Message-ID: <E2uMxK.5z2@nonexistent.com> References: <E2FwC0.4yy@nonexistent.com> <E2MKzC.Ks7@nonexistent.com> <32BCF239.683B@www.play-hookey.com> <E2tw30.JKp@nonexistent.com> <32BD916C.4B5F@www.play-hookey.com> X-Trace: 851315094/5622 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: main.put.com Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 04:24:55 GMT Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:32883 Ken Bigelow (kbigelow@www.play-hookey.com) wrote: : Louis Epstein wrote: : > : > Ken Bigelow (kbigelow@www.play-hookey.com) wrote: : > : Louis Epstein wrote: : > : > : > : > Louis Epstein (le@put.com) wrote: : > : > : Recent discussions of Apache and FreeBSD vs. Netscape etc. made me look : > : > : in /usr/ports/distfiles to see what version of Apache I had,I installed : > : > : it when I just got my FreeBSD 2.1 running and haven't looked since. : > : > : : > : > : I have 1.0.0. : > : > : : > : > : Some time ago I copied a new Ports Collection onto my HD,which specifies : > : > : version 1.0.5,but I don't know if trying to install this would work,as : > : > : the file's likely not there any more...just like the link on the FreeBSD : > : > : Release Information Page(which still says the 2.1.6 release "will : > : > : probably occur in the next 2-3 months") announcement for 2.0 Alpha : > : > : gives a supposed link from which one could FTP FreeBSD 2.0A which of : > : > : course doesn't work! : > : > : : > : > : The current Ports Collection entry is apparently for 1.1.1. : > : > : : > : > : The version they are now hawking at www.apache.org is 1.2b2. : > : > : > : > This is now the one in the Ports Collection as of 12/17. : > : > : > : > : I'm wondering what I may gain by upgrading Apache,AND if doing : > : > : it before or after an upgrade of FreeBSD 2.1 to 2.1.6 would make : > : > : a difference...or what difference in performance might be attributable : > : > : to each change if I did both. : > : > : : > : > : I understand the previous discussion said 2.2,but not 2.1.6, : > : > : had been tweaked to run WWW faster,but in an ISP operation : > : > : environment stability's the key...I suppose that,with reference to the : > : > : mentioned caching program,Squid 1.0.22 would be a better bet than : > : > : 1.1.0. [just replaced by 1.1.1 in the past week...yes,1.1.0 was buggy] : > : My priority is also stability. I'm running Apache 1.1.1 on FreeBSD 2.1R : > : with no problems. I will leave it this way for the present, to retain : > : that stability. I won't be upgrading to either 2.1.5 or 2.1.6 on the : > : server machine, with 2.2R just around the corner. As soon as I know 2.2 : > : is truly stable, I expect to upgrade to that platform, but I can't see : > : changing the platform every couple of months under my circumstances. : > : > 2.1.6 is,we have been told repeatedly,stabler than 2.2...the analogous : > release of 2.2 isn't due until summer '97.I've been running 2.1 since : > the end of '95,and if 2.1.6 is better,I figure it may be worth the : > upgrade hassle,while early 2.2.x won't be.(Just as I'd be likelier to : > go from 2.2.[max x] to 3.1 than to 3.0.) : : You're right, of course. And it's also true that 2.1.6 has some : capabilities not present in 2.1R. We'll see; I've been planning on : upgrading the hardware as well as the FreeBSD OS. I expect I'll get the : new hardware first; I've been considering going to a PCI board. But my : 33.6K dialup is still the primary bottleneck... Meaning you run a WWW server on the customer end of a dialup? (I run an ISP with a 384K line,customers presently dialing in at 28.8 though expansion will be 33.6K or ISDN or some combination). My next motherboard/CPU will be PCI,I suppose...current set is VLB at its max(486 DX4-120). : : As for Squid, I've seen references to both it and CERN cache in my : agent_log file, but I haven't tried it, and so have no opinion. See http://squid.nlanr.net/Squid for their claims.