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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!portc01.blue.aol.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!node2.frontiernet.net!not-for-mail From: dsf@node6.frontiernet.net (Dan Foster) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Apache and FreeBSD versions Date: 24 Dec 1996 00:34:38 -0500 Organization: Frontier Internet, A reliable part of your life Lines: 70 Message-ID: <59nq1e$n14@node6.frontiernet.net> References: <E2FwC0.4yy@nonexistent.com> <E2tw30.JKp@nonexistent.com> <32BD916C.4B5F@www.play-hookey.com> <32BF5674.2D0F@fred.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: node6.frontiernet.net Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:33063 In article <32BF5674.2D0F@fred.net>, Roger Armstrong <mcurry@fred.net> wrote: >Ken Bigelow wrote: >> As for Squid, I've seen references to both it and CERN cache in my >> agent_log file, but I haven't tried it, and so have no opinion. I figure >> that my 33.6K dialup is the basic bottleneck on my system. Until I can >> upgrade that to at least ISDN, any efforts I make to speed up the box >> will have little practical effect. It might help you, even on a relatively 'low speed' net connection because it becomes 'smarter' through caching and other optimizing technology, so you don't have to clog as much of your pipe to the net with redundant data. However, how much of a potential win this would be for you, I don't know. Evaluation would probably give you your answer. Although, yes, I'll concede that you can go ever so far before you run into that brick wall called bandwidth... >USR says they will make x2 firmware available to new purchasers of their >modem lines, sometime in Jan. or Feb. Assuming that you seek out an ISP X2 is still a very much beta product. One of the nation's top 10 long distance telco company's subsidiary - their ISP, doesn't even have the X2 software in hand yet! What you are hearing is the marketing hype USR is making. No offense intended to USR - I love the products, I like the company... but I recognize marketing hype for what it is when I see it. >that uses USR modems for dialups, this could move you up to 56K. I have contacts with a large telco and various people, and my info is *very* preliminary (ie I have yet to do much more reading), so keep that in mind. What I've heard: X2 is nice, but not necessarily a panacea. Why? For one thing, it's isosynchronous (ie 56k down, 33k up, or something to that effect). And then it requires that switches between your serving CO and the CO that serves the ISP is pure digital. There are a bunch of older analog switches still out there. And then there is the matter of industry acceptance of the format used for X2. USR has their own..Rockwell, Motorola, Lucent et al are all playing with something else. Then the ITU-T is waiting for submissions from those companies - but they could always reject it in favor of something else. Why is this important? Anybody remember USR's HST format before v.32 was standardized? :) Then there are some lawsuits pending that may affect the final outcome. And so on. IOW.. lots still remains to be fleshed out before X2 can truly be called a standardized technology in any form. X2 might be called more of a very temporary stopgap measure? Technology to watch out would be ADSL... or the offerings from various cable companies (again, their offerings are isosynchronous, too - but at least bigger pipe overall than with X2). >On the other hand, Bell Atlantic is thrashing the ISDN waters pretty >hard. They are now waiving the $125 installation charge. This could put >you in a position where you could 1. find an ISP that would or could >execute the ISDN dialup to your Web site for inbound calls (seems >unlikely), or 2. plunge ahead and get the centrex ISDN. Maybe BellAtl >has a pop reasonably close-by, and your mileage charges for centrex may >be acceptable. Hmm. Mileage-based charges rather than per-minute charges? Hmm, interesting. How would the two compare (ie CTX ISDN and mileage-based charges vs typical residential ISDN offering and per-minute charges), any ideas? (Very curious now ;-) ) -Dan Foster Internet: dsf@frontiernet.net Disclaimer: I speak for nobody but myself... much less my employer, who probably wants to have nothing to do with my opinions/random assertions. ;-)