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From: le@put.com (Louis Epstein)
Subject: Re: Apache and FreeBSD versions
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Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 05:46:44 GMT
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Ken Bigelow (kbigelow@www.play-hookey.com) wrote:
: Louis Epstein wrote:
: > 
: > Ken Bigelow (kbigelow@www.play-hookey.com) wrote:
: > : Louis Epstein wrote:
: [snip some older stuff...]
: 
: > : > : > : I understand the previous discussion said 2.2,but not 2.1.6,
: > : > : > : had been tweaked to run WWW faster,but in an ISP operation
: > : > : > : environment stability's the key...I suppose that,with reference to the
: > : > : > : mentioned caching program,Squid 1.0.22 would be a better bet than
: > : > : > : 1.1.0.
: > 
: > [just replaced by 1.1.1 in the past week...yes,1.1.0 was buggy]
: 
: It happens everywhere. That's why I tend to sit back and wait while the
: dust settles.

They're now up to 1.1.2(not yet in the Ports Collection).
 
: > 
: > : > : My priority is also stability. I'm running Apache 1.1.1 on FreeBSD 2.1R
: > : > : with no problems. I will leave it this way for the present, to retain
: > : > : that stability. I won't be upgrading to either 2.1.5 or 2.1.6 on the
: > : > : server machine, with 2.2R just around the corner. As soon as I know 2.2
: > : > : is truly stable, I expect to upgrade to that platform, but I can't see
: > : > : changing the platform every couple of months under my circumstances.
: > : >
: > : > 2.1.6 is,we have been told repeatedly,stabler than 2.2...the analogous
: > : > release of 2.2 isn't due until summer '97.I've been running 2.1 since
: > : > the end of '95,and if 2.1.6 is better,I figure it may be worth the
: > : > upgrade hassle,while early 2.2.x won't be.(Just as I'd be likelier to
: > : > go from 2.2.[max x] to 3.1 than to 3.0.)
: > :
: > : You're right, of course. And it's also true that 2.1.6 has some
: > : capabilities not present in 2.1R. We'll see; I've been planning on
: > : upgrading the hardware as well as the FreeBSD OS. I expect I'll get the
: > : new hardware first; I've been considering going to a PCI board. But my
: > : 33.6K dialup is still the primary bottleneck...
: > 
: > Meaning you run a WWW server on the customer end of a dialup?
: > (I run an ISP with a 384K line,customers presently dialing in at
: > 28.8 though expansion will be 33.6K or ISDN or some combination).
: 
: Yep. I paid for a 24/7 connection and a static 32-node Class C subnet;
: this lets me have a server/gateway and still hook my little home network
: to it. I made the server box be the gateway as well, so that packets
: from outside don't have to fight their way over my 10B2 Ethernet as
: well. It's not superfast, but it works and is quite stable.

I may have customers in your position some time...good to know that
it works.

Have your upgrades of Apache improved performance?

: > My next motherboard/CPU will be PCI,I suppose...current set is
: > VLB at its max(486 DX4-120).
: 
: Mine is close to that. It's currently a 486DX-50 running at full speed,
: with a VLB 6-pack I/O card. I have one more motherboard with the AMD
: 5x86-133 (overclockable to 160 MHz), and at the computer show last
: Sunday I saw Western Digital Caviar drives -- the 33100 (3.1 GB) for
: $299. They're getting cheaper by the day!

You're going it without SCSI?

: > :
: > : As for Squid, I've seen references to both it and CERN cache in my
: > : agent_log file, but I haven't tried it, and so have no opinion.
: > 
: > See http://squid.nlanr.net/Squid for their claims.
: 
: Thanks, I will. But I bet they still can't speed up that 33.6K link!

Just make sure stuff is cached well on your disk.