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From: dsf@node6.frontiernet.net (Dan Foster)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: email clients...
Date: 27 Dec 1996 09:12:03 -0500
Organization: Frontier Internet, A reliable part of your life
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In article <5a0kmi$9bc@uuneo.neosoft.com>,
Conrad Sabatier <conrads@neosoft.com> wrote:
>In article <32C321D3.1DFF@javanet.com>,
>	John Szumowski <harpo@javanet.com> writes:
>You may have a situation similar to mine.  My ISP uses both SMTP and POP.
>Pine will use SMTP to *send* mail, but it doesn't know anything about POP
>yet (same with a number of other mail packages).

BTW: If Neosoft (*excellent* ISP, imho...one of the best in the nation)
supports IMAP, I would suggest running with IMAP. This is what POP should
have had been in the first place. There are a bunch of IMAP clients out
now, and a well connected source suggests that Netscape v4 has support for
it. http://www.imap.org/products/client.html for a list of clients available.
Of course... if Neosoft doesn't support IMAP, then that is a moot point. :)

>What I've done is setup popclient as a cron job to periodically poll the
>server for new incoming mail and stuff it into /var/mail/$LOGNAME.  Works
>fine.  This is also a great way to "keep alive" a connection!  :-)  Or, if
>you've setup ppp on demand (with proper timeout setting), you can have
>your system check for new mail at any time (whether you're already
>connected or not).  Connect, login, grab whatever's waiting, then have the
>ppp timeout disconnect you (a short timeout works best in this case, of
>course -- say, a couple of minutes).

If Neosoft has a recent version of sendmail, then that supports the
ETRN SMTP command which, basically tells the mail server to send you all
mail it's queued for you. Write a few liner expect script that telnets to
the mail server's SMTP port (port 25) and issue a ETRN command? Note:
I'm not sure if the ETRN command requires other parameters like a static
hostname, etc. Ask Neosoft on this point, or see any replies in this group
to this post?

-Dan Foster
Internet: dsf@frontiernet.net