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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!news.netspace.net.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!grumpy.fl.net.au!news.webspan.net!ix.netcom.com!enews.sgi.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!nntp.portal.ca!cynic.portal.ca!not-for-mail From: cjs@cynic.portal.ca (Curt Sampson) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc Subject: Re: Why no addusr? Date: 6 Jan 1997 23:28:47 -0800 Organization: Internet Portal Services, Inc. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <5astvf$hos@cynic.portal.ca> References: <none-ya023480001912962244220001@news.infi.net> <5aj14j$ri8@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> <5arjo9$foo@cynic.portal.ca> <5as0dq$a0l@keyhole.west.spy.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cynic.portal.ca Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:5072 In article <5as0dq$a0l@keyhole.west.spy.net>, Dustin Sallings <dustin@bleu.west.spy.net.> wrote: > I am *very* pleased with the install on Net. The only thing I'd >change was the way it does the partitioning, and I'm not even sure if >I'd do that (I had a calculator, and I learned something). I can do a >Net install in a fraction of the time it takes to install Linux or Free. Actually, after a half dozen installs you'll probably find you can install faster by ignoring the install routines completely and just setting up and untarring the stuff yourself at the root prompt. Nobody with any reasonable sysadmin skills is going to have any trouble with NetBSD once they've gotten over the initial learning stages. This is possibly one of the reasons that NetBSD doesn't have such nice install routines: NetBSD users are for the most part fairly sophisticated, and of course people tend to be reluctant to write code they won't use. (Probably they are for the most part fairly sophisticated because the less sophisticated users use something easier, however.) I do think, however, there is a place in the Unix world for very easy-to-install, easy-to-run systems that concentrate on having good install procedures and good binary packages, even at the expense of being painful for sophisticated Unix hackers to use. I was lucky enough, many years ago, to learn on a system that someone else set up and administrated. If I'd had to do my own VAX 11/780 4.2BSD install to get started, it probably would have slowed me down rather a bit. cjs -- Curt Sampson cjs@portal.ca Info at http://www.portal.ca/ Internet Portal Services, Inc. Vancouver, BC (604) 257-9400 De gustibus, aut bene aut nihil.