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Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.hawaii.edu!ames!haven.umd.edu!decuac!pa.dec.com!vixie From: vixie@pa.dec.com (Paul A Vixie) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: [386BSD] Problems installing cnews/nn Date: 5 Dec 92 15:08:56 Organization: DEC Network Software Lab Lines: 28 Message-ID: <VIXIE.92Dec5150856@cognition.pa.dec.com> References: <1992Nov27.153032.10611@uropax.contrib.de> <1fav2bINN2ie@tricky.wft.stack.urc.tue.nl> <ByI76y.75o@world.std.com> <VIXIE.92Nov30104256@cognition.pa.dec.com> <ByK57p.3M6@world.std.com> <VIXIE.92Dec4134323@cognition.pa.dec.com> <Byrvwu.155@world.std.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cognition.pa.dec.com In-reply-to: geoff@world.std.com's message of Sat, 5 Dec 1992 06:12:30 GMT [Geoff Collyer] >That way lies sendmail and emacs. I remember once thinking that sendmail was large. Then came X11. Monolithic designs are not always best. Nor are they always worst. I prefer the general design of MMDF to the general design of sendmail. However, I prefer the actual implementation of sendmail to that of MMDF. Same for MGR vs. X11. Same for C News vs. INN. It's one thing to have applications which are designed according to some standard of intellectual purity. And, these days, it's quite another thing to have applications which actually work well on the computers and operating systems we can buy off the shelf. Saying that C News is the proper design doesn't make processes cheaper on my computer. The application that wins is the one that works best, regardless of the fact that the reason it works best is because the operating system is huge and bloated and complicated and slow. -- Paul Vixie, DEC Network Systems Lab Palo Alto, California, USA "Don't be a rebel, or a conformist; <vixie@pa.dec.com> decwrl!vixie they're the same thing, anyway. Find <paul@vix.com> vixie!paul your own path, and stay on it." -me