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Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!bruce.cs.monash.edu.au!andrewh
From: andrewh@cs.monash.edu.au (Andrew Herbert)
Subject: Re: Occasional system hangs
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Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
References: <1992Dec2.140837.12619@cli.di.unipi.it> <jason.723781864@sorokin> <ByysLH.Axr@ns1.nodak.edu> <1g95ueINNhri@manuel.anu.edu.au>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 07:31:51 GMT
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titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu) writes:

[386bsd hang description deleted]

>In article <ByysLH.Axr@ns1.nodak.edu> tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu (Mark Tinguely) writes:
>>this is the infamous VM problem. When swap is filled (or gets totally
>>fragmented), the system can freeze. The nature of the VM makes this problem
>>very difficult to totally solve. There are attempts to correct this problem
>>for good. You can avoid the symptoms by adding more swap space. You must

>hmmm .. we already have 24 megs of swap space and 8 megs of ram on the
>system that jason described.. we could always add a 2nd swap i guess :P

My system, with 16 MB RAM and 32 MB swap, hangs in a similar way.  Existing
processes such as INN processing incoming news and nntplinks sending outgoing
news usually keep ticking away for quite some time (i.e. disk is unaffected),
but it looks a whole lot like anything requiring a fork(), such as programs
are run from the shell just hangs.  Eventually all processes grind to a halt,
but the system can still be pinged.  The VM problem sounds quite a likely
cause, alas.  gcc 2.3.1 is particularly good at bringing about this problem,
while X8514 and friends rarely lasts more than 12 hours without hanging 386bsd
and requiring a reboot.

Time for more RAM I guess!

Andrew