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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.hawaii.edu!ames!sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!math.fu-berlin.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!minnie!orville!tacke From: tacke@orville.uni-mainz.de (Markus Tacke) Subject: Re: [386BSD] What about localisation? Message-ID: <3VO9RIR@minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Sender: tacke@orville (Markus Tacke) Nntp-Posting-Host: orville Organization: Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz References: <1992Dec7.182103.1799@rdrel.relcom.msk.su> <1992Dec8.214215.24804@fcom.cc.utah.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 11:25:02 GMT Lines: 46 In article <1992Dec8.214215.24804@fcom.cc.utah.edu>, terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes: ......... |> In any case, I would prefer any Unicode standard, however badly implemented, |> to XPG3, which would fail to deal with anything but Western Europe and |> North and South America, in my opinion. |> |> Another thing which requires consideration is a set of standardized |> messages translated into all supported languages through whatever |> localization mechanism we will use for messages in the shell, programs, |> and etc. for perror and family. This will tend to go a long way towards |> usability in an international forum -- and probably constitutes our best |> bet for high return on the effort we invest, guaranteeing at least base |> functionality in supported languages .......... |> I suggest we attack it in this order: |> |> 1) Pick a standard for encoding (I vote Unicode). |> 2) Pick a standard for storage (I vote character set attributed files |> to avoid stream encoding while maintaining the benefits of 8-bit |> storage for most languages). |> 3) Create an X environment capable of supporting all languages by |> default (Again, I vote Unicode). |> 4) Build some tools for running two character sets simultaneously |> (requires combination of Anglicized/Localized encoding and |> adat entry mechanisms). |> 5) Provide basic error message and prompting translations (requires |> fluently bilingual volunteers). |> 6) Perform a code integration (probably at the 0.2 level, although |> this may drag on until 0.3). |> For the last month one of my tasks was to support our University Library with their Computers and I had varoius discussions with them and with the programmers of the catalog systems. >From this Discussions i have to conclude: YOU ARE RIGTH, Terry, we need it and we need it soon. Best would be, we don't get a stable system without it. Markus Tacke (tacke@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE) Unix und Netzwerke Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They call me benchmarkus -- I say: bench Markus! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------