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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!lucy.swin.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au!news.apana.org.au!cantor.edge.net.au!news.mira.net.au!news.netspace.net.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!grumpy.fl.net.au!news.webspan.net!news.intersurf.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!data.ramona.vix.com!sonysjc!sony bc!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!tbsnews.turner.com!usenet From: Frederick Haab <"haab.."@efx7.turner.com (remove .. to reply)> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Betting on Unix Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 16:41:01 -0500 Organization: Turner Broadcasting Lines: 64 Message-ID: <5ddj5d$jo1@tbsnames.turner.com> References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <nLVF2tL@quack.kfu.com> <5daq9b$tck@usenet1y.prodigy.net> <32F90AEB.41C6@osf.org> <5dctol$13si@usenet1y.prodigy.net> <E5715J.44@midway.uchicago.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: efx7.turner.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01S (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.setup:95777 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2305 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:52032 comp.os.os2.advocacy:266033 Alex Yung wrote: > Bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com) wrote: > : In article <32F90AEB.41C6@osf.org>, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY > : | Unix doesn't have applications??? What are you talking about? > : | Do you mean Linux doesn't have any applications? [...] > : People who think {vi,emacs}+{groff,TeX} are a word processor should > : not quit their day job to sell UNIX word processing to the masses. > : The same is true for sc as a modern spreadsheet. > If I understand Bill's point, one chooses an OS by apps he/she uses. Hopefully (although a lot of people buy into O.S. hype before thinking it through...thus the success of MS Windows when Macs had been around so long). > But I don't understand the bashing about Unix. Most of the Unix apps > are not built for any home users. This is basically true...but why? It doesn't have to be this way! > It is meant for mission critical processes. WHO SAYS? Like in your airplane example? The VAST VAST VAST majority of things running out there are *not* "mission critical". In fact, if I remember the anecdote correctly, Unix was first built so the authors could play a particular game... > Each OS addresses certain need for certain population. > I don't think we would want to have one OS for everyone. Isn't this > monoploy which no one wants anyway? Yes, but "UNIX" isn't a company or even a single O.S., and even if it was so what? So what if it was the only O.S. people used as long as it did what it was supposed to in a decent fashion! There is *no* reason why "Unix" can't be an end-user O.S., why it can't be installed simply and easily by novices, and why it can't have a lot of good end user packages! People are arguing that your average person shouldn't use Unix just because it can do more? Because it's *more* powerful? That's ridiculous! My company now needs to use PC's, Macs, and Unix boxes because of this sentiment, why do we have to live with such a nightmare? What's wrong with one good O.S.? [...airline scenario deleted...] I ask again, why do I have to boot my computer into a different O.S., or run some O.S. emulator, just to type a stinking letter on a nice word processor? It makes no sense when we say how much better Unix is than DOS/Windows, and then use DOS/Windows to do our mundane day to day business. Just because I run a finite element analysis package on Unix doesn't mean I *shouldn't* use Unix for word processing! (That's just a scenario folks). Fred -- -=-=- Frederick Haab -=- Software Developer -=- Turner Production -=-=-