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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!lucy.swin.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-ana-7.sprintlink.net!rockyd!not-for-mail From: Dan Ts'o <dan@dnn.rockefeller.edu> Subject: Re: Bizarre SCSI problem (3 disks work, 4 don't) (2940UW/Quantum Atlas II) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dnn.rockefeller.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <E5BH13.A82@rockyd.rockefeller.edu> Lines: 28 Sender: notes@rockyd.rockefeller.edu (News Administrator) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Rockefeller University X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 960930] References: <5d7201$qa@gosset.maths.tcd.ie> <32FA2004.53F@proaxis.com> <32FC823F.292@erinet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:43:51 GMT Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.periphs.scsi:70125 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:35243 In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Eric Ratermann <ericrat@erinet.com> wrote: : Man I'm glad to hear I'm not alone on this one, I had the same problem : with 4 4.5 gig FW Quantums (don't remember model) in a Ibm Server 320 : with the 2940 UW. A $60.00 forced perfect terminator and a lot of : dinking (that's a very high tech term for using Fuck I don't know try : anything) made it work. Besides, after spending $18,000 dollars on a : server I figured sixty to ease my termination worries didn't matter. : ANYWAY : What also worked was to enable termination on EVERY drive. It is the one : of mare uncouth things I've seen done to a PC but it worked. I can dream : up a few strange reasons about why but it simply don't make sense. (Any : Ideas???). The system benchmarked fine afterwards, and the customer has : a 8 or 10 in service. Probably just dampening reflections. I've never seen this discussed in relation to SCSI but I remember from Unibus days that it was common practice to vary the cable length between nodes with non-integral lengths to avoid reinforcement of reflections. Certainly by removing one of 4 disks off the bus would do that. -- Cheers, Dan Ts'o 212-327-7671 Dept. of Neurobiology FAX: 212-327-7671 The Rockefeller University 1230 York Ave. Box 138 dantso@cris.com New York, NY 10021 dan@dna.rockefeller.edu