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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!nntp.coast.net!howland.erols.net!EU.net!Germany.EU.net!Dortmund.Germany.EU.net!interface-business.de!usenet From: j@ida.interface-business.de (J Wunsch) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc Subject: Re: Linux vs BSD Date: 7 Feb 1997 17:38:25 GMT Organization: interface business GmbH, Dresden Lines: 48 Message-ID: <5dfpah$cre@innocence.interface-business.de> References: <32DFFEAB.7704@usa.net> <slrn5ekm26.5ml.ralsina@ultra7.unl.edu.ar> <32F68743.2781E494@freebsd.org> <slrn5feb63.93l.ralsina@ultra7.unl.edu.ar> <32F73973.167EB0E7@freebsd.org> <slrn5fejrn.353.bet@onyx.interactive.net> <5d7spf$8n6@web.nmti.com> <5d8ikn$801$1@venus.mcs.net> <5dd0p1$72n@innocence.interface-business.de> <5dekt3$aiu$1@venus.mcs.net> Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@interface-business.de (Joerg Wunsch) NNTP-Posting-Host: ida.interface-business.de X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.6 X-Phone: +49-351-31809-14 X-Fax: +49-351-3361187 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:157276 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2422 les@MCS.COM (Leslie Mikesell) wrote: > No, it was an AIC-7850 on an IWILL motherboard. Hmm, i don't know much about it, although i know of AIC-7850s that work. > As for not using the official support forums, why are they so well > hidden? Why are you not reading supplied READMEs? The support forums aren't hidden, but even if your boot disk fails to see the SCSI controller, it doesn't fail to show you the documentation. > These days it's downright unsociable to not show up in a search > using altavista, hotbot, dejanews, etc. I can understand a We don't run them, so don't blame us for what they're considering to include or not. > preference for mailing lists over newsgroups, but if you want Huh? Did you even hear about comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc? That ain't a mailinglist, mind you, and there's a lot of traffic in it. (I should know, incidentally i'm answering many questions there.) > While I'm at it, another question: does freeBSD (or it's Linux > emulation) support sysV style ioctl's on tty devices (#include > termio.h instead of termios.h)? I don't know about its Linux emulation, but i would suspect it does it by a layer in the library. If so, the emulation should automatically pick up them. FreeBSD itself doesn't, and certainly won't (unless you feel to contribute this to our libcompat ;-). However, it's usually a matter of five minutes to convert a SysV-termio program into at least something roughly resembling a working termios program (even if you still do it by ioctl's, as opposed to use the Posix-official tcfoo() and cffoo() functions). Practically, the only difference between both is that SysV termio doesn't know about split input and output line speed, while Posix termios does (in theory -- the PC hardware doesn't support it anyway). -- J"org Wunsch Unix support engineer joerg_wunsch@interface-business.de http://www.interface-business.de/~j