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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!uknet!bristol.st.com!frogland!not-for-mail From: David Shepherd <des@bristol.st.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: GPL Date: 14 Feb 1997 12:46:30 GMT Organization: SGS-Thomson Microelectronics Ltd. (Bristol) Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5e1mr6$868@milkwort.bri.st.com> References: <32DFFEAB.7704@usa.net> <5d2jpo$bb1@omega.gmd.de> <LJn9y0gTzz1L091yn@ibm.net> <5df12n$ckb@kadri.ut.ee> <5dn154$lgg@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: frogland.bri.st.com X-Disclaimer: This posting is a personal opinion and not that of SGS-THOMSON X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 961126] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:157955 comp.os.linux.networking:68235 comp.os.linux.advocacy:83599 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2476 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:52690 comp.os.os2.advocacy:267301 Donal K. Fellows <fellowsd@cs.man.ac.uk> wrote: : In article <5df12n$ckb@kadri.ut.ee>, : Sander Vesik <sander@haldjas.folklore.ee> wrote: : > They surely will support the manufacturer of the embeded processor : > gcc - who would doubt that they may do with their work whatever they : > want (= not allow you to distribute it). : I would have thought that this would constitute an infringement of the : FSF's copyright on GCC, as the grant of the right to copy and modify : GCC is made specifically under the conditions that any modifications : made to a redistributed version of GCC be also redistributable under : the terms of the GPL, and available from anyone selling the binaries : (with a reasonable charge for media - $1000 for a tape is not exactly : reasonable though) : If the manufacturer wants to use GCC and makes a modification to GCC : itself, then those mods must be made freely redistributable or the : use/redistribution of GCC is illegal. However, I don't think writing : new machine definitions for GCC's back-end counts as mods to GCC, and : could be done in such a way as to not be covered by the GPL at all. I think the GPL states that if you modify GPL code and give the result (i.e. compiled modified version) then you must make the modifications available to the end-user and those mods will then be GPL-ed. I.e. you don't have to make the mods "public" - however you have to give them to people using the resultant program and then you cannot prevent them from redistributing to whoever they want. : I still want to know why any company would be bothering to make : significant modifications to GCC anyway, seeing as they could leave it : alone and concentrate on the rest of the project, so getting it to : market sooner... A chip can get "to market" as early as it likes but nowadays it will get no further unless its got a decent software toolset to support it. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- david shepherd SGS-THOMSON Microelectronics Ltd, 1000 aztec west, bristol bs12 4sq, u.k. tel/fax: +44 1454 611522/617910 email: des@bristol.st.com "whatever you don't want, you don't want negative advertising"