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From: cjs@cynic.portal.ca (Curt Sampson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
Subject: Re: Why no addusr?
Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:17:04 -0800
Organization: Internet Portal Services, Inc.
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In article <DERAADT.97Feb10191845@zeus.theos.com>,
Theo de Raadt <deraadt@theos.com> wrote:

>In article <5dnfrp$gob@panix2.panix.com> tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) writes:
>
>   ...posting
>   that email is incredibly slimy.  It's illegal.  It's unethical.
>
>So sue me :-)

Nice attitude from the founder of OpenBSD. Not that what the founder
does has any reflection at all on OpenBSD, of course....

You may want to think again about posting that coremail file anyway,
Theo. Last year, before I had acquaintence with any of the developers
of OpenBSD or NetBSD, or knew anything about your relations with
the NetBSD project, I saw this start to flare up in newsgroups. I
read your coremail document, and the conclusion I came to was that
you were entirely in the wrong, and that the NetBSD team had done
the right thing, and you were dead set on being unco-operative with
them. At this point, given that I had no previous contact with any
of these people or knowledge of this situation, I think I could be
considered a fairly unbiased observer.

None the less, I set this aside and when I started contributing
work towards the NetBSD and OpenBSD projects, I worked with you on
a purely technical basis. I just ignored the politics.

Nonetheless, when I castigated Jason Downs in private e-mail for
posting yet more off-topic, inflamitory crap to the NetBSD mailing
lists, he forwarded that to you and you branded me a `traitor.' I
ignored this and attempted to continue our technical discussions,
but you refused to continue them. I think that this pretty much
puts paid to your claim on the OpenBSD `Project Goals' web page
that you want to `Be as politics free as possible - solutions should
be decided on the basis of technical merit.'

So congratulations, you've managed to drive away yet another possible
OpenBSD developer, both through your direct actions and your group's
frequent attacks on NetBSD. Perhaps you should think about starting
to work on making friends, rather than enemies.

cjs
-- 
Curt Sampson    cjs@portal.ca	   Info at http://www.portal.ca/
Internet Portal Services, Inc.	   Through infinite myst, software reverberates
Vancouver, BC  (604) 257-9400	   In code possess'd of invisible folly.