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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!metro!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!nntp.portal.ca!cynic.portal.ca!not-for-mail From: cjs@cynic.portal.ca (Curt Sampson) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc Subject: Re: Why no addusr? Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:17:04 -0800 Organization: Internet Portal Services, Inc. Lines: 47 Message-ID: <5dtc0g$hd0@cynic.portal.ca> References: <none-ya023480001912962244220001@news.infi.net> <DERAADT.97Feb10034559@zeus.theos.com> <5dnfrp$gob@panix2.panix.com> <DERAADT.97Feb10191845@zeus.theos.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cynic.portal.ca Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:5404 In article <DERAADT.97Feb10191845@zeus.theos.com>, Theo de Raadt <deraadt@theos.com> wrote: >In article <5dnfrp$gob@panix2.panix.com> tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) writes: > > ...posting > that email is incredibly slimy. It's illegal. It's unethical. > >So sue me :-) Nice attitude from the founder of OpenBSD. Not that what the founder does has any reflection at all on OpenBSD, of course.... You may want to think again about posting that coremail file anyway, Theo. Last year, before I had acquaintence with any of the developers of OpenBSD or NetBSD, or knew anything about your relations with the NetBSD project, I saw this start to flare up in newsgroups. I read your coremail document, and the conclusion I came to was that you were entirely in the wrong, and that the NetBSD team had done the right thing, and you were dead set on being unco-operative with them. At this point, given that I had no previous contact with any of these people or knowledge of this situation, I think I could be considered a fairly unbiased observer. None the less, I set this aside and when I started contributing work towards the NetBSD and OpenBSD projects, I worked with you on a purely technical basis. I just ignored the politics. Nonetheless, when I castigated Jason Downs in private e-mail for posting yet more off-topic, inflamitory crap to the NetBSD mailing lists, he forwarded that to you and you branded me a `traitor.' I ignored this and attempted to continue our technical discussions, but you refused to continue them. I think that this pretty much puts paid to your claim on the OpenBSD `Project Goals' web page that you want to `Be as politics free as possible - solutions should be decided on the basis of technical merit.' So congratulations, you've managed to drive away yet another possible OpenBSD developer, both through your direct actions and your group's frequent attacks on NetBSD. Perhaps you should think about starting to work on making friends, rather than enemies. cjs -- Curt Sampson cjs@portal.ca Info at http://www.portal.ca/ Internet Portal Services, Inc. Through infinite myst, software reverberates Vancouver, BC (604) 257-9400 In code possess'd of invisible folly.