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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!lucy.swin.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!cs.mu.OZ.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail From: tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc Subject: Re: Flamage. "Slime". A plea for quiet, if not peace. (WAS Re: Why no addusr?) Date: 17 Feb 1997 09:41:21 -0500 Organization: Panix Lines: 40 Message-ID: <5e9qmh$aep@panix2.panix.com> References: <none-ya023480001912962244220001@news.infi.net> <5e8pu5$o0$1@news.iastate.edu> <5e97ko$d7@panix2.panix.com> <1997Feb17.085648@screwem.citi.umich.edu> Reply-To: tls@rek.tjls.com NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.panix.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:5459 In article <1997Feb17.085648@screwem.citi.umich.edu>, peter honeyman <honey@citi.umich.edu> wrote: >In article <5e97ko$d7@panix2.panix.com>, tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) writes: > > An excellent example of this is honeyman's claim that we had > ignored a large number of bug reports from Jim Rees at CITI. > peter admitted that this was not the case, but he didn't > stop flaming us; he just moved on to other issues. It's hard > to see how we could have walked away without addressing his > initial issue, or how our wholly factual discussion of that > matter was improper or "slimy". > >tls, what's slimy here is your alteration of the content and meaning >of my notes. to reiterate: the netbsd cabal ignored our bug reports, >while the openbsd developers acted on them. facts, man, facts. You know, I don't know what to say to you about this, peter. We spent a lot of effort trying to figure out what bug reports you were talking about, which we described in our previous responses to you on this topic. I don't know why you're acting towards us in the fashion which you are. We didn't call you "slimy" -- or any other names -- and we didn't sling around highly pejorative descriptions like "cabal", certainly not in CITI's direction. I guess we _disagree_ about the facts, peter. What's slimy about that? I encourage anyone who's particularly interested in this to go read the entire exchange between honeyman, Curt, Jason, and I, and make up his own mind. If you decide we're slimy, fine. If you decide honeyman's slimy, fine. I don't think either of us are slimy, actually -- I have a great deal of respect for peter, as abrasive as he can sometimes be -- but if you decide that we're all space aliens from Mars, that's fine with me too. All I can do is present one point of view, and there are obviously many. -- Thor Lancelot Simon tls@rek.tjls.com But as he knew no bad language, he had called him all the names of common objects that he could think of, and had screamed: "You lamp! You towel! You plate!" and so on. --Sigmund Freud