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From: deraadt@theos.com (Theo de Raadt)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
Subject: Re: Why no addusr?
Date: 16 Feb 1997 04:01:03 GMT
Organization: Theo Ports Kernels For Fun And Profit
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In-reply-to: thorpej@baygate.bayarea.net's message of 16 Feb 1997 02:39:06 GMT
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In article <5e5s0a$oja@news.bayarea.net> thorpej@baygate.bayarea.net (Jason R. Thorpe) writes:

   >Yup, because the NetBSD tree has illegal source code in it.

   Not only is this a gross misrepresentation of the facts, but your
   statement makes no sense.  There is no law banning the existence
   of the source in question.  There is, however, an agreement in place
   which stipulates certain restrictions on a set of revisions.

Prove it.

   The text of this agreement is not public.  Because of this, you cannot
   have all of the facts.  Therefore, since you don't have the facts, and
   thus cannot make an accurate statement on this matter, I suggest you
   refrain from commenting, lest you discredit yourself further.

I say prove it.  I say you are waving around some little non-existant
document.

The NetBSD source tree contains pieces of REAL 4.4 code in the magnum
branch.  These pieces were taken straight off vangogh.

I _really_ doubt you have a piece of paper which says

1) you are allowed to have 4.4BSD code in the tree
2) you were given permission by CSRG to download pieces of raw 4.4BSD
3) that the person who did that was permitted to without a AT&T source
   license.
4) that this was allowed to happen while the lawsuit was ongoing.

You may have a piece of paper which says you are allowed to _ship_
Net2 binaries, but I also doubt you have a piece of paper which says
you are permitted to give access to these files to all the people
without source licenses who have commit access.

Most of all, Jason, remember that I was there and YOU WERE NOT YET.
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