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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!arg1.demon.co.uk!arg-home5.net-tel.co.uk!nobody From: Andrew Gordon <andrew.gordon@net-tel.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Please help a freeBSD newbie Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:12:54 +0000 Message-ID: <330B1876.41C67EA6@net-tel.co.uk> References: <3304827D.549F@crl.com> <330886eb.2749133@Server> <87g1ywm4b8.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> <3309C39E.41C67EA6@net-tel.co.uk> <87enedzgi0.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: arg1.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: arg1.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-BETA_A i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 46 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:35761 stephen farrell wrote: > > Andrew Gordon <andrew.gordon@net-tel.co.uk> writes: > > > > > stephen farrell wrote: > > > basically, you'll probably want to set up your freebsd box to > > > "support" the network. you'll want to run routed (routing daemon), > > > > Why are people so keen on running routed? In this case (a totally > > disconnected network) it can't do any good at all. And for > > well, forgive my ignorance, but in setting up a totally isolated > network (as i have had to do several times, specifcially between macs > and unix boxes), routed produced the desired effect... it worked > without hassle. if there is a better way, i'd be interested to hear > it. Do exactly as before, but don't run routed! In the simplest case (an ethernet segment, nothing else), there are no routes at all, so routed does precisely nothing. Once you start adding other networks, it might be helpful or harmful depending on what the other routers involved are configured to do. > > the next level of complexity (dial-up link to an ISP), > > simple default routes will suffice (and are all that the Macs > > can easily be configured to use anyhow). > > right, and if the unix box is running routed, you set the default > routes on the mac to the unix box and voila. But manually setting the default route is an _alternative_ to using routed, not somthing that relies on routed. > > And we regularly see posts here from people suffering from > > routed deleting their external routes on a dial-up because > > the ISP isn't playing RIP - when they usually had no reason > > to run routed in the first place. > > .... well, i guess i'm just missing something here. i've always run > routed to handle this sort of stuff b/c it didn't work until i did (so > i assumed it was the right thing). like i said, i'd be interested to > hear how you configure a isolated lan without routed... There must have been somthing else wrong with your setup if starting routed made it work.