*BSD News Article 8966


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,alt.suit.att-bsdi
Subject: Re: AT&T/USL CD-ROM Review Process
Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!think.com!unixland!rmkhome!rmk
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:16:50 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Message-ID: <9212152217.13@rmkhome.UUCP>
References: <1992Dec12.233537.12931@netcom.com> <1ge0aaINNm4d@neuro.usc.edu> <1992Dec13.165418.5021@sbcs.sunysb.edu> <1992Dec13.183240.23944@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> <1992Dec14.162111.29882@crd.ge.com>
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In article <1992Dec14.162111.29882@crd.ge.com> davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.183240.23944@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, bogstad@gauss.cs.jhu.edu (Bill Bogstad) writes:
>
>| 	I'ld like to know why people think that USL won't sue the Jolitzes
>| if they win against BSDI.  Is there something magically wrong that BSDI did
>| that the Jolitzes didn't.  (Okay, BSDI charges money.)  Still, I'ld like
>| 386BSD and the other freeware Unix clones to succeed to the extent that I
>| can purchase support for them.  I'm quite happy to hack on my own system for
>| fun, but when I go to work it would be nice to be able to use the same
>| system.  Until I can safely trade some of my employers money for less
>| hacking on the company time clock, I won't be able to do this.  I can
>| understand that this might not be the primary goal of either Jolitz (386BSD)
>| or Linus (Linux); but I would hope that neither one of them would mind their
>| software being used for something besides hacking.  I predict that if it
>| appears even remotely that 386BSD or Linux are starting to encroach on the
>| commercial Unix market; USL will take any and all legal steps possible to
>| stop their further distribution.
>
>  Note that AT&T signed off on Coherent, even though the authors had
>obviously seen AT&T code. If AT&T has reason to believe that there is
>AT&T code in NET2, or paraphrased routines, or program structures, they
>have the right and obligation to sue. Linux was clearly written from
>scratch, as opposed to having been written based on AT&T code ant then
>"cleansed." I don't think there's much comparison.

Actually, Dennis Ritchie looked at Coherent and waved his hand over it.
Things were a little more informal in those days.  However, AT&T did
tell some competitors of MWC that Coherent was tainted before DR saw
the code.  This caused MWC to lose a large contract.

>  For those who aren't up on legal positions, if the officers of a
>company don't protect the assets of the company (like code and trade
>secrets) the stockholders have the right to sue the officers to recover
>lost profits. As in sue them personally. Without making any judgement on
>the merits of the case, I can't imagine the owner of the code NOT
>protecting it.

Really.

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