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From: johns@cs.umr.edu (John Stone)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.security.unix
Subject: Re: OpenBSD hides security fixes (and blindly integrates code)
Date: 18 Feb 1997 23:17:53 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, Univ. of Missouri-Rolla
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In article <5ecm2o$p6n@cynic.portal.ca>,
Curt Sampson <cjs@cynic.portal.ca> wrote:
>In article <slrn5ghrv6.90q.tqbf@char-star.rdist.org>,
>Thomas H. Ptacek <tqbf@enteract.com> wrote:
>>
>>Please dissociate Mr. de Raadt and The Entity Known As OpenBSD. 
>
>That's not really something I can do. It is, however, something
>you can do. When do you intend to remove his commit privileges and
>kick him out of the core team? :-)

Sad Curt.

>Given that Theo is the founder of OpenBSD, appears to be one of
>the key decision-makers, is the Sparc co-portmaster, the author of
>many of those web pages, has OpenBSD in his signature, and spends
>a lot of time in the usenet newsgroups promoting OpenBSD, it's
>disingenous to tell me to `disassociate' the two. People can't and
>won't until you (meaning the rest of the OpenBSD folks) take measures
>to do so. Letting him go on the way he does and still associating
>yourself and him with OpenBSD is tacit approval of his behaviour.

Curt, I can't say that I'm very impressed with yours _now_ either.
Just a day ago you were wanted me to convince people to 'let it go'
and here I see you're spreading napalm all over the place now..

I don't consider the remaining comments worthy of reply.

  John Stone
  j.stone@acm.org