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From: mcurry@fred.net ( )
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Please help a freeBSD newbie
Date: 20 Feb 1997 15:17:55 GMT
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Brian certainly doesn't need for me to second his opinion, but FWIW, his
description of setup and related events (ref. routed, default routes,
etc.) is exactly what I discovered during my last episode of semi-informed
dialup+local network configuration.

Mostly, I'm glad that something I figured out myself may actually be
right. :)

mc

Brian Somers (brian@ui-gate.utell.co.uk)
wrote: : stephen farrell (sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: : Andrew Gordon <andrew.gordon@net-tel.co.uk> writes:
: 
: : > 
: : > stephen farrell wrote:
: : > > basically, you'll probably want to set up your freebsd box to
: : > > "support" the network.  you'll want to run routed (routing daemon),
: : > 
: : > Why are people so keen on running routed?  In this case (a totally
: : > disconnected network) it can't do any good at all.  And for
: 
: : well, forgive my ignorance, but in setting up a totally isolated
: : network (as i have had to do several times, specifcially between macs
: : and unix boxes), routed produced the desired effect... it worked
: : without hassle.  if there is a better way, i'd be interested to hear
: : it.
: 
: [.....]
: 
: It shouldn't matter if routed (-q) is running or not.  With a
: private net (not connected to anything else), you don't need
: to do anything - your IP & Netmask will tell the machine that
: all the other machines are local.  If you run routed -q, nothing
: will continue to happen as nobody's broadcasting RIP.
: 
: If you connect via a dial-up to the 'net, all you need to do is
: set a "default" on the dialup machine to the other side of the
: dialup, and a "default" on all other machines that points to the
: dialup machine.  I suspect it's very rare that an ISP will broadcast
: RIPs down a dialup.... there's no point - they'd just say "default
: this way".  Therefore, having routed running doesn't matter.....
: except for some reason, people report that routed keeps deleting their
: default route.  This has *never* happened to me !!  The only reason
: I can imagine is that routed is adding the route in the first place...
: it's never been supposed to (and never has for me) delete static
: routes (netstat -r has the 'S' flag).
: 
: Ppp is responsible for the line, and controls all routing table entries
: for that line.  If ppp is to be used, there should be *absolutely
: nothing* mentioned about tun* in /etc/sysconfig.  The *only* lines
: that you need are
: 
: /etc/ppp/ppp.conf:
:     ifaddr 10.10.10.10/0 10.10.10.11/0 255.255.255.0
:     delete ALL
:     add 0 0 HISADDR
: 
: /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup:
:     delete ALL
:     add 0 0 HISADDR
: 
: Hope this helps.
: 
: --
: Brian <brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> <brian@utell.co.uk> <brian@freebsd.org>
:       <http://www.awfulhak.demon.co.uk>
: Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour !