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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!vic.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!psgrain!iafrica.com!uct.uni.net.za!ru.uni.net.za!wits.uni.net.za!howland.erols.net!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.itd.umich.edu!biscuit.rs.itd.umich.edu!darrenlo From: darrenlo@umich.edu (Darren Lo) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Betting on Unix Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Date: 22 Feb 1997 09:07:32 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Lines: 44 Message-ID: <5emd0k$t1i@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <5dbapu$t1f$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> <x7n2ti4s7i.fsf@dumbcat.codewright.com> <5dc7qq$hed@phoenix.sysbe.sysgo.de> <5ddcvf$4dh@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> <330a1d23.2419719@172.15.0.208> <5ef5c8$rgs@arktur.rz.uni-ulm.de> <330B2333.38B6@to.me.please> <330ea403.78621875@mambo> NNTP-Posting-Host: biscuit.rs.itd.umich.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:160304 comp.os.linux.networking:69503 comp.os.linux.setup:98979 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:6067 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2581 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:54089 comp.os.os2.advocacy:269121 On Thu, 20 Feb 1997 01:09:25 GMT, Sang K. Choe (sangria@inlink.com) said something to the effect of: : Sorry, power I can agree with, but usability? That's an utter and : total crock. Vi is the single most user hostile application I have : ever had the misfortune of using or trying to teach another to use. Heh, heh. Try getting somebody who's never seen vi, ex, and their ilk to run ed. ;) Here's a transcript of what I think is a typical session: myunixbox% ed This is a test. ? Hello, world ? help ? ? ? man ed ? quit ? exit ? ^C ? ^Z ? ! ! (etc... followed by the sounds of a swearing user and a terminated connection ;) Note the simplicity, consistency, and power of ed's error reporting. Having said all that, I must say that I love what I can do with vi, even if I can't yet be called a vi power user. -- Darren Lo, darrenlo@umich.edu +-----------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------+Do not meddle in the affairs | |Mobius strip for sale... see back for details.|of Schrodinger, for he is | |Klein bottle for sale... inquire within. |subtle and quick to anger. | +----------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+