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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!EU.net!sun4nl!server1.adam.ixe.net!news2.euro.net!wirehub!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.unisource.nl!news.unisource.nl!wwwserv1.shell.nl!news From: "Terje A. Bergesen" <no.email@to.me.please> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Betting on Unix Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:13:35 +0100 Organization: NSEP Lines: 30 Message-ID: <330EF0FF.55CE@to.me.please> References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <5daq9b$tck@usenet1y.prodigy.net> <32F90AEB.41C6@osf.org> <5dbapu$t1f$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> <x7n2ti4s7i.fsf@dumbcat.codewright.com> <5dc7qq$hed@phoenix.sysbe.sysgo.de> <5ddcvf$4dh@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> <330a1d23.2419719@172.15.0.208> <5ef5c8$rgs@arktur.rz.uni-ulm.de> <330B2333.38B6@to.me.please> <5ehglc$lef@innocence.interface-business.de> Reply-To: no.email@to.me.please NNTP-Posting-Host: gate.shell.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:160580 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2593 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:54274 comp.os.os2.advocacy:269374 J Wunsch wrote: > > "Terje A. Bergesen" <no.email@to.me.please> wrote: > > > Or even vi, the most simple, yet incredible powerful editor there is. > > Microsoft has *never* created an editor with anything remotely like > > the usability and power of vi! > > You are probably right with some of your statements, but you err with > one: vi is everything else than ``most simple''. (No, you don't need > to explain me vi in your followup. I'm using it, as well as one or > two other editors.) Ease of use doesn't nessesarily mean "easy to learn". I was raised on vi and Unix. When you are used to the powerful tools of Unix, you will often find they share a common way of working. If there are things in vi I am not sure how to do, I can usually deduct it from other Unix tools I am using, and the overall idea behind them. For someone with several years (about 12 now) of experience with these tools, vi is an editor that definately comes in under the "ease of use" products. I can do much more with vi than with most other editors, much faster, and it didn't take me 10 years to learn, but it might have taken me 2 years. _______________________________________________________________________ --- Terje Bergesen - I speak only for me, not for my employer. --- --- Email adress can be decuted from: t.bergesen at shell.no