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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au!news.apana.org.au!cantor.edge.net.au!news.teragen.com.au!news.access.net.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!howland.erols.net!news.nacamar.de!uunet!in1.uu.net!192.94.214.100!shemesh.hq.tis.com!troma.rv.tis.com!not-for-mail From: mark@troma.rv.tis.com (Mark Sienkiewicz) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Betting on Unix Date: 4 Mar 1997 18:05:40 -0500 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 31 Message-ID: <5fi9s4$4ca@troma.rv.tis.com> References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <5evi7i$as7@bmtlh10.bnr.ca> <3313F486.CF3@visigenic.com> <3316B828.4958@absyss.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: troma.rv.tis.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:162779 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2713 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:55681 comp.os.os2.advocacy:271706 In article <3316B828.4958@absyss.fr>, Douglas Seay <seay@absyss.fr> wrote: >Tim O'Neil wrote: >> >> Steve Juneau wrote: >> [blah blah snipped] >> > Human-factor wise, vi is good because I can do my work faster and its >> > command language minimize the movement of your hands on the keyboard. >> >> No Steeve, human factor wise vi is crap. Steeve factor wise vi >> is good because Steeve has spent the time nessessary to learn vi >> fluently. However, if your going to tell me that you picked up >> vi fluency in five minutes I'm not buying it. > >Human factors is "fluency in 5 minutes or less". interesting criterion, eh? :) You can't learn to operate a telephone in 5 minutes; you can't learn to read a clock in 5 minutes; you can't learn to tie your shoes in 5 minutes... I guess that means vi is at least as hard to use as a telephone. :) Realistically, though, when I did learn vi, it took me about a half an hour to learn a useable subset of features. That subset was not very large, but it was at least as powerful as the text editing features of WordStar. (Do any of you remember WordStar?) Of course, I'm probably not a good example... after all, I *am* a rocket scientist. :)