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From: peter@nmti.com (Peter da Silva)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Betting on Unix
Date: 5 Mar 1997 21:12:01 GMT
Organization: Network/development platform support, NMTI
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In article <5ffg7n$c69$1@mars.mcs.net>, Leslie Mikesell <les@MCS.COM> wrote:
> In article <5f9oko$l7f@web.nmti.com>, Peter da Silva <peter@nmti.com> wrote:
> >In article <5f6fhq$el0@faculty.ed.umuc.edu>,
> >Robb Shecter <rshecter@faculty.ed.umuc.edu> wrote:
> >> I know how to change the Paragraph xyz setting in MS Word 2.0:  You go to
> >> the Format Paragraph menu and it'll be there.  If not, then you can't 
> >> change it.

> >OK, now how do you indent a group of paragraphs in MS-WORD? Once you start
> >trying to do anything globally in MS-WORD it's *extremely* finicky, because
> >tags (state changes) don't nest the way the way they do in just about every
> >other markup language (TeX, SGML, Word Perfect, even to a certain extent
> >old creaky troff).

> If you mean a series of paragraphs that are each indented a bit more
> than the provious one,

No, a series of paragraphs that are indented to some combination of depths,
but operated on as a whole.

A block of text that happens to be a logical unit, but deeper than a paragraph.

Say, an indented quote.

> I'm not sure if there is a way that will still
> work if you move things around.

I spent some time trying to find one and gave up and just redid all the
paragraph specifications whenever I wanted to change the way my document
was arranged.

> Word has different concepts about
> parts of documents that make it different from programs that just
> respond to formatting codes as they hit them.

Actually, if you look at the way it works, Word just responds to formatting
codes as it hits them too. It just has very little context.

> What I've usually done
> is create a style for each paragraph type/level, generally by making one
> look right and then using the style-by-example to give in a name, although
> the current versions come with a bunch of pre-defined styles for different
> document types.  Then you just attach the right style to the paragraph to
> put it at the level you want.

Yep, and then switch to a different style if you want to change the level of
a block of text.

> Unlike programs that don't know what
> a paragraph is, you don't have to find the end of the paragraph yourself
> to turn the formatting off.

Yes, that's the problem. Word knows what a paragraph is, and doesn't have
any context larger than a paragraph and smaller than a document.
-- 

             The Reverend Peter da Silva, ULC, COQO, BOFH.

                  Har du kramat din varg, idag? `-_-'