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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au!news.apana.org.au!cantor.edge.net.au!news.teragen.com.au!news.access.net.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!newspump.sol.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!ddsw1!not-for-mail From: les@MCS.COM (Leslie Mikesell) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy Subject: Re: Betting on Unix Date: 6 Mar 1997 12:50:03 -0600 Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation Lines: 60 Message-ID: <5fn3kr$s6k$1@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <5f9oko$l7f@web.nmti.com> <5ffg7n$c69$1@mars.mcs.net> <5fknj1$bfb@web.nmti.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jupiter.mcs.net Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:163179 comp.os.linux.networking:71110 comp.os.linux.setup:101338 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:6243 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2742 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:55996 In article <5fknj1$bfb@web.nmti.com>, Peter da Silva <peter@nmti.com> wrote: > >> >OK, now how do you indent a group of paragraphs in MS-WORD? Once you start >> >trying to do anything globally in MS-WORD it's *extremely* finicky, because >> >tags (state changes) don't nest the way the way they do in just about every >> >other markup language (TeX, SGML, Word Perfect, even to a certain extent >> >old creaky troff). > >> If you mean a series of paragraphs that are each indented a bit more >> than the provious one, > >No, a series of paragraphs that are indented to some combination of depths, >but operated on as a whole. > >A block of text that happens to be a logical unit, but deeper than a paragraph. > >Say, an indented quote. This is where your experience with editors and formatters as separate entities may be working against you. MS-WORD has always had consistant if not intuitive ways to select arbitrary chunks of text even back in the DOS (mouseless) days. It will apply formatting commands to all the selected parts at once. >> Word has different concepts about >> parts of documents that make it different from programs that just >> respond to formatting codes as they hit them. > >Actually, if you look at the way it works, Word just responds to formatting >codes as it hits them too. It just has very little context. Not exactly. When applying commands it knows about selected components and when executing them it understands paragraphs as specific entities. >> What I've usually done >> is create a style for each paragraph type/level, generally by making one >> look right and then using the style-by-example to give in a name, although >> the current versions come with a bunch of pre-defined styles for different >> document types. Then you just attach the right style to the paragraph to >> put it at the level you want. > >Yep, and then switch to a different style if you want to change the level of >a block of text. If you defer making it pretty until the last step this isn't much of a problem. >> Unlike programs that don't know what >> a paragraph is, you don't have to find the end of the paragraph yourself >> to turn the formatting off. > >Yes, that's the problem. Word knows what a paragraph is, and doesn't have >any context larger than a paragraph and smaller than a document. Click at the start, shift-click at the end, apply the style or formatting commands. There are 'increase indent' and 'decrease indent' buttons on the toolbar if you don't use styles. Les Mikesell les@mcs.com