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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!news.vbc.net!vbcnet-west!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!olivea!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news-hk.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!hkusud.hku.hk!news.cs.hku.hk!usenet From: sdlee@cs.hku.hk (Lee Sau Dan ~{@nJX6X~}) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy Subject: Re: Word vs Latex Date: 07 Mar 1997 19:00:02 +0800 Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Hong Kong Lines: 46 Sender: sdlee@phoenix.cs.hku.hk Message-ID: <7fends9dcd.fsf@phoenix.cs.hku.hk> References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <5ffg7n$c69$1@mars.mcs.net> <5fknj1$bfb@web.nmti.com> <01bc29e6$f20ce700$0b9e32ca@development1> <5fn30b$heo@nntp1.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: phoenix.cs.hku.hk In-reply-to: somsky@dirac.phys.washington.edu's message of 6 Mar 1997 18:39:07 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:163162 comp.os.linux.networking:71104 comp.os.linux.setup:101327 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:6239 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2738 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:55990 >>>>> "William" == William R Somsky <somsky@dirac.phys.washington.edu> writes: William> That's one of the big disadvantages of WYSIWYG setups. William> People have a tendancy to fool around pushing buttons and William> pulling menus until they end up with a kludge that looks William> more or less right, rather than finding the proper way of William> doing something, like using a style. And since all that William> you see is what the result will look like, and not what's William> actually there, it's hard to track down these misusages William> to clean up something that someone else has done. Can't agree more! I've the same experience. I told my colleagues to use style, for formatting consistencies. However, they simply ignore my request. They set the typeface, font-size, bold/italic/underline, etc. directly. Finally, I have to spend hours going through what they've written, turning back the formatting into styles. That's boring, tedious and time-wasting (in terms of both my colleagues' time and my time). I've never had such problems with LaTeX. With LaTeX, I worked will my colleagues well. All of us are <forced> to markup our text logically, according to the structure of the entire document. Each of us have a better view of both the global document as well as the local parts we are responsible for. The joining of the different parts of the document has never been smoother. Moreover, we were really able to concentrate on the contents, and hence the document is much richer in content and flow. William> And that's one of the reasons why I prefer a YAFIYGI (you William> asked for it, you got it) system, where WYSIWYS (what you William> see is what you _said_) rather than WYSIWYG (what you see William> it what you _get_). Agree! Many so-called WYSIWYG systems are, according to my own opinion and experience, not WYSIWYW (what you see is not what you want). Without WYSIWYW, what's the point of having WYSIWYG? It is very frustrating to work with non-WYSIWYW systems. -- Lee Sau Dan §õ¦u´°(Big5) ~{@nJX6X~}(HZ) .----------------------------------------------------------------------------. | http://www.cs.hku.hk/~sdlee e-mail: sdlee@cs.hku.hk | `----------------------------------------------------------------------------'