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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!news.vbc.net!vbcnet-west!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!news.pbi.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!warwick!bignews.shef.ac.uk!kusogari From: kusogari@shef.ac.uk (Earl H. Kinmonth) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Betting on Unix Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Date: 8 Mar 1997 21:01:21 GMT Organization: Organization? What organization? Lines: 37 Message-ID: <5fsk31$oa7@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <5dbapu$t1f$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> <x7n2ti4s7i.fsf@dumbcat.codewright.com> <5dc7qq$hed@phoenix.sysbe.sysgo.de> <5ddcvf$4dh@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> <330a1d23.2419719@172.15.0.208> <5ef5c8$rgs@arktur.rz.uni-ulm.de> <330B2333.38B6@to.me. <857190027.3067.2@msn-4-3.binc.net> Reply-To: ehk@gol.com NNTP-Posting-Host: kuso.shef.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:163483 comp.os.linux.networking:71300 comp.os.linux.setup:101627 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:6262 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2759 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:56232 comp.os.os2.advocacy:272977 William A. Barnett-Lewis (wlewis@mailbag.com) wrote: : In article <330F8EB5.7DE1@agapesystems.com>, andersop@agapesystems.com says... : > : >Mathew E. Kirsch wrote: : >> The people with the attitude that "vi is satan incarnate" will never : >> learn to appreciate its efficiency and power, simply because they refuse : >> to try and learn the syntax. Learning vi is paramount to learning UNIX, : >> as it teaches you to think in a unix mindset. : >If you used ed, vi was a blessing. If you used vi, emacs is a blessing. : AMEN! On both parts of that statement. Clue me in. I'm an historian by training and employment, not a computer nerd. I've tried emacs. I've tried e. I've tried various other editors. I still find vi <more> <user> <friendly> than anything I've tried. That fx finds the next instance of x, that Fx does the same thing to the left, that dw deletes a word, etc., took me all of two or three tries to remember, and, as any number of contributors to this group will quickly tell you, I'm not very bright. Assuming I had mistyped the previous line, I would have type b to back up a word. To backup five words, I would have typed 5b. Although I have a PhD (history), typing 5b to go back five words does not qualify as "rocket science" in my book. Am I missing something? -- Earl H. Kinmonth, Kanji Users Service Operation (KUSO!), University of Sheffield, Sheffield, England S10 2UJ